From: Jonas Nick <jonasdnick@gmail•com>
To: Tom Trevethan <tom@commerceblock•com>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Blinded 2-party Musig2
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 14:12:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca674cee-6fe9-f325-7e09-f3efda082b6b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJvkSsc_rKneeVrLkTqXJDKcr+VQNBHVJyXVe=7PkkTZ+SruFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Tom,
I'm not convinced that this works. As far as I know blind musig is still an open
research problem. What the scheme you propose appears to try to prevent is that
the server signs K times, but the client ends up with K+1 Schnorr signatures for
the aggregate of the server's and the clients key. I think it's possible to
apply a variant of the attack that makes MuSig1 insecure if the nonce commitment
round was skipped or if the message isn't determined before sending the nonce.
Here's how a malicious client would do that:
- Obtain K R-values R1[0], ..., R1[K-1] from the server
- Let
R[i] := R1[i] + R2[i] for all i <= K-1
R[K] := R1[0] + ... + R1[K-1]
c[i] := H(X, R[i], m[i]) for all i <= K.
Using Wagner's algorithm, choose R2[0], ..., R2[K-1] such that
c[0] + ... + c[K-1] = c[K].
- Send c[0], ..., c[K-1] to the server to obtain s[0], ..., s[K-1].
- Let
s[K] = s[0] + ... + s[K-1].
Then (s[K], R[K]) is a valid signature from the server, since
s[K]*G = R[K] + c[K]*a1*X1,
which the client can complete to a signature for public key X.
What may work in your case is the following scheme:
- Client sends commitment to the public key X2, nonce R2 and message m to the
server.
- Server replies with nonce R1 = k1*G
- Client sends c to the server and proves in zero knowledge that c =
SHA256(X1 + X2, R1 + R2, m).
- Server replies with s1 = k1 + c*x1
However, this is just some quick intuition and I'm not sure if this actually
works, but maybe worth exploring.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-24 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-24 7:46 Tom Trevethan
2023-07-24 10:50 ` ZmnSCPxj
2023-07-24 14:25 ` Erik Aronesty
2023-07-24 16:08 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-07-24 15:57 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-07-24 14:12 ` Jonas Nick [this message]
2023-07-24 14:40 ` Erik Aronesty
2023-07-24 15:40 ` Jonas Nick
2023-07-24 16:51 ` AdamISZ
2023-07-25 14:12 ` Erik Aronesty
2023-07-25 16:05 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-07-26 4:09 ` Erik Aronesty
2023-07-26 17:40 ` Andrew Poelstra
2023-07-26 19:59 ` Jonas Nick
2023-07-26 20:35 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-07-26 22:06 ` Erik Aronesty
2023-07-27 2:54 ` Lloyd Fournier
2023-07-27 8:07 ` Jonas Nick
[not found] ` <CAJvkSsfa8rzbwXiatZBpwQ6d4d94yLQifK8gyq3k-rq_1SH4OQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-27 13:25 ` [bitcoin-dev] Fwd: " Tom Trevethan
2023-08-07 0:55 ` [bitcoin-dev] " Tom Trevethan
2023-08-08 17:44 ` moonsettler
2023-08-09 15:14 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-08-10 3:30 ` Lloyd Fournier
2023-08-10 11:59 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-08-14 6:31 ` Lloyd Fournier
2023-08-30 10:52 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-07-24 15:39 ` Jonas Nick
2023-07-24 16:22 ` Tom Trevethan
2023-07-26 9:44 ` moonsettler
2023-07-26 14:59 ` Jonas Nick
2023-07-26 19:19 ` AdamISZ
2023-07-26 19:28 ` moonsettler
2023-07-27 5:51 ` AdamISZ
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2023-07-26 16:32 ` Tom Trevethan
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