Re: [bitcoin-dev] Small Nodes: A Better Alternative to Pruned Nodes

From: Aymeric Vitte <vitteaymeric@gmail•com>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Small Nodes: A Better Alternative to Pruned Nodes
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 01:19:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccb96920-4387-ed91-e03e-15f4b2772aa3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE-z3OVXLKqyBb3R5yzOYdnRALot4KUhJ53r9y2jXkf6Yt=KnA@mail.gmail.com>

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From the initial post " The situation would likely become problematic
quickly if bitcoin-core were to ship with the defaults set to a pruned
node."

Sorry to be straight, I read the (painful) thread below, and most of
what is in there is inept, wrong, obsolete... or biased, cf the first
sentence above, if the idea is to invent a workaround to the fact that
pruning might/will become the default or might/will be set by the users
as the default so full nodes might/will disappear then just say it
clearly instead of proposing this kind of non-solution as a solution to
secure the blockchain

I can't believe this is serious, people now are supposed to prune but
will be forced to host a part of the blockchain, how do you expect this
to work, why people would do this? Knowing that to start pruning they
need a full node, then since we are there, why not continuing with a
full node... but indeed, why should they continue with a full node, and
therefore why should they accept to host a part of the blockchain if
they decline the first proposal?

This is absurd, you are not addressing the first priority given the
context which is to quickly increase the full nodes and which obviously
includes an incentive for people to run them

It gives also the feeling that bitcoin wants to reinvent everything not
capitalizing on/knowing what exists, sorry again but the concepts of the
proposal and others like archival nodes are just funny

Le 18/04/2017 à 15:07, Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev a écrit :
> This has been discussed before.
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008101.html
>
> including a list of nice to have features by Maxwell
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008110.html
>
> You meet most of these rules, though you do have to download blocks
> from multiple peers.
>
> The suggestion in that thread were for a way to compactly indicate
> which blocks a node has.  Each node would then store a sub-set of all
> the blocks.  You just download the blocks you want from the node that
> has them.
>
> Each node would be recommended to store the last few days worth anyway.
>
>
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