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From: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach•de>
To: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Floating fees and SPV clients
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:50:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <l7fpbn$hf6$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5E4597E4-C1C7-4536-8CF0-82EDD7715DAB@plan99.net>

(my post hasn't shown up for an hour, so I'm sending it again)


On 12/01/2013 02:41 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:

>> As long as the tx is not confirmed (by a broadcast), apps can offer to
>> bump up the fee a little bit.
>
> Unfortunately there are risks to that approach.

I assume you're right, since I do not have so much experience with game
theory.

About the UI:

Generally, for pending tx I'd like to measure time they're not being
broadcast-confirmed and count blocks that they missed being included.
Both can be combined into adapting the current generic messages ("This
payment should become spendable shortly" for incoming and "This payment
has not been transmitted yet" for outgoing transactions). Hint:
Statistics could be offered by bitcoinj.

For outgoing transactions, if it is very clear that they're never going
to be confirmed, I'd like to see a "Revoke" button. This would have
saved us some support hassles with the transmit bugs. It could also
offer a "Top up fee" button, which would replace the tx by a new one.
I'm aware about a possible double spend but who cares? It doesn't matter
which of the two transactions gets into the chain, as long as not both
will be included.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-01 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-01 11:51 Mike Hearn
2013-12-01 12:15 ` Andreas Schildbach
2013-12-01 13:41   ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-01 16:50     ` Andreas Schildbach [this message]
2013-12-01 17:19       ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-01 17:40         ` Andreas Schildbach
2013-12-01 17:52           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-01 18:12         ` Peter Todd
2013-12-01 18:18           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-01 18:37             ` Peter Todd
2013-12-02 13:54         ` Patrick Mead
2013-12-02 14:33           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-02 14:37             ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-02 14:44               ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-02 14:47                 ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-03  1:40                 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-03 10:06                   ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-03 10:36                     ` Drak
2013-12-03 10:45                       ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-03 11:04                         ` Drak
2013-12-03 11:07                     ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-03 11:29                       ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-03 11:37                         ` Peter Todd
2013-12-03 11:41                         ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-03 11:46                           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-03 11:54                             ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-03 12:05                             ` Drak
2013-12-03 11:57                         ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-03 12:07                           ` Peter Todd
2013-12-03 13:20                             ` Jamie McNaught
2013-12-03 13:20                           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-03 13:48                             ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-03 13:54                               ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-03 14:42                             ` Quinn Harris
2013-12-04  1:45                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-04 10:40                         ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-04 10:57                           ` Peter Todd
2013-12-04 11:09                             ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-04 13:06                               ` Peter Todd
2013-12-04 13:48                                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-04 21:51                                   ` Peter Todd
2013-12-03 11:03                   ` Peter Todd
2013-12-03 11:09                     ` Drak
2013-12-03 11:33                       ` Peter Todd
2013-12-04  5:50                   ` kjj
2013-12-03 11:31 ` Peter Todd

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