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From: Kekcoin <kekcoin@protonmail•com>
To: Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect•com>
Cc: "bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org"
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
	Anthony Towns <aj@erisian•com.au>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 20:29:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lY1DxlDe2AacxKRcsB8DG2WvQK5wVnJdl46pE9Np9aGyTD560eDpJEvXZTNfKxSvulsGJOv3J4lrv14plchXfZh5JyYPLCNPATRMFUdu_h8=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DF2F59-49DF-4F90-B2A6-AF903EACE6A0@taoeffect.com>

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Please read my email more carefully; the replay threat would be moot because there would be no alternative chain to replay the TX on, as the non-148 chain would have been reorganized into oblivion.

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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable
Local Time: June 7, 2017 3:26 AM
UTC Time: June 7, 2017 12:26 AM
From: contact@taoeffect•com
To: Kekcoin <kekcoin@protonmail•com>
Anthony Towns <aj@erisian•com.au>, bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>

I don't know what you mean by "render the replay threat moot."

If you don't have replay protection, replay is always a threat. A very serious one.

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On Jun 6, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Kekcoin <kekcoin@protonmail•com> wrote:

Hmm, that's not the difference I was talking about. I was referring to the fact that using "post-chainsplit coinbases from the non-148 chain" to unilaterally (ie. can be done without action on the 148-chain) taint coins is more secure in extreme-adverserial cases such as secret-mining reorg attacks (as unfeasibly expensive they may be); the only large-scale (>100 block) reorganization the non-148 chain faces should be a resolution of the chainsplit and therefore render the replay threat moot.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-07  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-06 22:39 Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:02 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-06-06 23:12   ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07 13:25   ` Nick Johnson
2017-06-07 16:27     ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07 17:35       ` Nick Johnson
2017-06-08  5:44         ` Conner Fromknecht
2017-06-08  6:38           ` Nick Johnson
2017-06-06 23:08 ` Luke Dashjr
2017-06-06 23:19   ` Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:20 ` Anthony Towns
2017-06-06 23:27   ` Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:31     ` Tao Effect
2017-06-06 23:59     ` Kekcoin
2017-06-07  0:04       ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07  0:19         ` Kekcoin
2017-06-07  0:26           ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07  0:29             ` Kekcoin [this message]
2017-06-07  0:38               ` Tao Effect
2017-06-07  0:46                 ` Kekcoin
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2017-06-06 20:43 Tao Effect

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