--- Day changed Wed Sep 14 2016 01:47 < nsh> heh 07:39 < andytoshi> gmaxwell: so i played a bit with j-invariant curves over various small curves. i found a few examples of this duality, a few examples of curves whose orders were the same as their curve orders, and one example with _three_ curves that were related this way 07:40 < andytoshi> (x^3 + 7 = y^2 on F1 had point-group isomorphic to F2; curve eqn on this had group isomorphic to F3; curve eqn on this had group isomorphic to F1) 07:41 < andytoshi> these were not hard to find, i just typed small primes into sage and looked at the group orders, i haven't done any systemic searching, and i moved on whenever i hit a composite order. so i don't have any hypotheses about the general truth.. 08:21 < andytoshi> scratch the three-curve thing, i can't find that again, and i think i made a mistake. my experiments show that whenever a j-invariant 0 curve has prime order, there is _some_ "dual curve" on the field of that order, such that the curve order equals the original field order 08:22 < andytoshi> and sometimes there are multiple prime-order fields so you can get chains: like (103, 97) are a pair, as is (97, 79); (79, 67); (67; 73) 09:28 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:32 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1 13:23 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:33 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1 16:49 -!- afk11 [~afk11@79.97.105.226] has joined #secp256k1 16:49 -!- afk11 [~afk11@79.97.105.226] has quit [Changing host] 16:49 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has joined #secp256k1 17:57 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uuiottdcbxbvfyyh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:08 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #secp256k1