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i'd like to use this in grin, is it something we can do independent of the multisig stuff (which is much higher scope) 13:19 < andytoshi> in general, are we planning to do anything with schnorr sigs (even commit to pubkey) before doing the big changes? 13:20 < andytoshi> what derandomization equation do you want to use? maybe i should put some work into proving that.. 13:24 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:24 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1 13:26 < sipa> andytoshi: great! 13:27 < sipa> i'd like to retire the existing schnorr scheme, as it does not commit to the pubkey 13:28 < sipa> and start publishing/implementing a new one, which has 1) a basic scheme and 2) a multisig scheme 13:30 < andytoshi> cool .. so the way i see it is that we can do (a) basic, (b) aggregatable, (c) multisig, (d) heirarchical multisig .. and at each step we can have something usable that doesn't change in later steps 13:30 < andytoshi> i don't know enough of the specifics of (c) and (d) to say if this is a feasible roadmap 13:37 < sipa> (b) and (c) are pretty much the same 13:37 < sipa> (b) is just (c) with the key combining done at verify time 13:41 < sipa> but yes, that sounds totally feasible 15:29 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:38 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1 16:14 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:18 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1 17:42 -!- roasbeef_ [~root@104.131.26.124] has joined #secp256k1 17:42 -!- andytosh1 [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined #secp256k1 17:43 -!- nickler_ [~nickler@185.12.46.130] has joined #secp256k1 17:43 -!- roasbeef [~root@104.131.26.124] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 17:43 -!- nickler [~nickler@185.12.46.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55 -!- jtimon [~quassel@211.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:11 -!- gmaxwell [greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] --- Log closed Sun Oct 23 18:33:00 2016 --- Log opened Sun Oct 23 18:33:54 2016 18:33 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@bryan.fairlystable.org] has joined #secp256k1 18:33 -!- Irssi: #secp256k1: Total of 30 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal] 18:39 -!- da2ce7 [~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7] has joined #secp256k1 18:44 -!- Irssi: Join to #secp256k1 was synced in 686 secs 18:44 -!- gmaxwell [greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #secp256k1 20:05 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:08 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1 23:54 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:58 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #secp256k1