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07:38 < elichai2> sipa: do you want test vectors for BIP32 on X only pubkeys?
07:45 < sipa> elichai2: i don't think there is a need for that
07:45 < sipa> bip32 operates on full keys; they're converted to xonly in the last step
07:47 < elichai2> So you're saying they should use secp256k1_pubkey and only convert to XOnly at the end? wouldn't full separation between schnorr and ecdsa keys be preferable?(also, so what's the use case for the xonly pubkey tweak functions?)
07:51 < sipa> absolutely not
07:52 < sipa> being able to reuse all key generation functionality is a goal
07:52 < sipa> otherwise i'm sure it won't be adopted at all
07:52 < sipa> except in niche situations
07:52 < sipa> the xonly tweak functions are needed for taproot sign/verify on the key path
08:04 < elichai2> I guess you're right. it still feels like best practice would be full separation but I guess it doesn't do anything if no one will adopt it, so adoption is preferable over theoretical non-existing attacks or nonce collisions (especially with the domain separation it should never happen)
08:07 < sipa> there was some discussion on the ML about that a while ago
08:09 < sipa> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-February/018384.html
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08:15 < elichai2> +1
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