--- Log opened Fri Jan 29 00:00:30 2021 00:31 -!- fanquake_ [sid369002@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pllzngnlrrqggqyd] has quit [] 00:31 -!- fanquake_ [sid369002@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fabjqugvqpcyhsnz] has joined ##taproot-activation 00:36 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined ##taproot-activation 01:01 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 01:07 -!- MarcoFalke [~none@198.12.116.246] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in] 01:08 -!- MarcoFalke [~none@198.12.116.246] has joined ##taproot-activation 01:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 03:32 -!- wumpus is now known as wumpus_ 03:32 -!- wumpus_ is now known as wumpus 03:40 -!- rdymac_ is now known as rdymac 04:15 < michaelfolkson> Anyone have views on whether we should reach out to Matt before Tuesday's meeting? I guess if he is willing to talk he could just come back to this channel 04:18 < wumpus> it's clearly very stressful to him you could explain and ask but please don't insist too much 04:19 < michaelfolkson> I think I'll leave it then. I don't want to make the situation worse 04:19 < michaelfolkson> Thanks wumpus 04:32 -!- waxwing_ is now known as waxwing 04:32 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@193.29.57.116] has quit [Changing host] 04:32 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has joined ##taproot-activation 04:39 -!- pinheadmz [~pinheadmz@pool-71-105-114-182.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##taproot-activation 04:42 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined ##taproot-activation 05:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: midnight 05:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: midnight 05:01 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: robert_spigler 05:01 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 05:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: robert_spigler 05:03 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sword_smith 05:03 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##taproot-activation 05:03 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sulwoxgyopxoqgnl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sword_smith 05:03 -!- robert_spigler [robertspig@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pfgpoxykjfjtgpfk] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:05 -!- ensuremoonrise[m [ensuremoon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xcxdexwlbmvuuhza] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:05 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fbrpvvksdhpwfpai] has joined ##taproot-activation 05:31 -!- ensuremoonrise[m [ensuremoon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dwiuicvexpzyprba] has joined ##taproot-activation 05:39 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined ##taproot-activation 05:41 -!- robert_spigler [robertspig@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rmhxidhxpcgaqhrn] has joined ##taproot-activation 05:44 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 05:47 -!- robert_spigler [robertspig@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rmhxidhxpcgaqhrn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:48 -!- ensuremoonrise[m [ensuremoon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dwiuicvexpzyprba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:12 -!- ensuremoonrise[m [ensuremoon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ngonilpjkowvtrfb] has joined ##taproot-activation 06:14 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined ##taproot-activation 06:22 -!- robert_spigler [robertspig@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xkbjtvagxjhmdpit] has joined ##taproot-activation 06:26 < nothingmuch> luke-jr: put another way - is timestamp vs. blockheight purely a bikeshedding/implementation issue, or does it potentially change incentives for someone interested in sabotaging activation? seems equivalent but i couldn't convince myself 06:42 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com] has joined ##taproot-activation 06:42 -!- pigeons is now known as Guest30520 06:57 -!- Guest30520 is now known as pigeons 07:00 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Quit: liberliver] 07:32 < aj> nothingmuch: bip9's behaviour is failing if any block in a period has a mediantime after the cutoff time. but if you're doing a uasf, blocks can become very slow, so if you only have 20% hashpower, a retarget period can take 10 weeks instead of 2 weeks eg, meaning that your "november" cutoff actually might mean you have to have achieved lockin 9.9 weeks earlier. that's why bip148 required 07:32 < aj> mandatory signalling starting in august, quite a few months before segwit's nominal expiry in november 07:33 < aj> nothingmuch: with block heights, you always have the expected number of blocks; the amount of hashpower just affects when they arrive and how much difficulty changes 07:56 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:55 < nothingmuch> aj: thanks, seems obvious now that you've explained =) 09:00 < luke-jr> nothingmuch: Segwit showed how it helps the saboteur 09:14 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has joined ##taproot-activation 10:00 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@192-184-130-48.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:23 -!- roconnor [~roconnor@host-104-157-194-235.dyn.295.ca] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:09 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:12 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:26 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 14:40 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined ##taproot-activation 16:00 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rtrvbrteldnwftvj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:33 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##taproot-activation 16:34 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:38 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 17:15 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwqrhoaiovkjywdm] has joined ##taproot-activation 20:00 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwqrhoaiovkjywdm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:14 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 23:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Jan 30 00:00:30 2021