--- Log opened Sun Feb 28 00:00:43 2021 02:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.170.56.180] has joined ##taproot-activation 02:20 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 02:36 -!- jonasschnelli_ [~jonasschn@static.239.36.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Changing host] 02:36 -!- jonasschnelli_ [~jonasschn@unaffiliated/jonasschnelli] has joined ##taproot-activation 02:42 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 02:47 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:02 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined ##taproot-activation 03:15 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 03:48 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 06:25 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: pigeons, mblackmblack 06:25 -!- Netsplit over, joins: pigeons 06:25 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mblackmblack 06:25 -!- pigeons is now known as Guest47624 08:19 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##taproot-activation 09:41 -!- stortz [bb3fa187@187.63.161.135] has joined ##taproot-activation 10:13 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##taproot-activation 10:15 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:54 -!- sdaftuar_ [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has joined ##taproot-activation 10:58 -!- sdaftuar [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:58 -!- sdaftuar_ [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:58 -!- sdaftuar_ [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has joined ##taproot-activation 11:02 -!- sdaftuar [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has joined ##taproot-activation 11:05 -!- sdaftuar_ [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:11 -!- sdaftuar [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- sdaftuar [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has joined ##taproot-activation 11:57 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.88.65] has joined ##taproot-activation 12:00 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.170.56.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:21 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.88.65] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50 <@michaelfolkson> Updated Telegram group for Taproot activation (LOT=true) here: https://t.me/taprootactivation 12:51 < luke-jr> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-February/018498.html 12:51 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51 < luke-jr> also the refutations to F1-F7 https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-February/018500.html 12:51 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:09 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.88.65] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:20 -!- mcm-mike [~mcm-mike@unaffiliated/mcm-mike] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:20 < jeremyrubin> michaelfolkson: is there a reason to not use the exisiting tg group? 13:21 < jeremyrubin> just looking at 258 vs 20 members lol 13:21 <@michaelfolkson> I didn't set it up 13:21 * michaelfolkson shrugs 13:21 < jeremyrubin> ah ok 13:22 <@michaelfolkson> I'm guessing too a proportion of the people in that group won't be interested in a LOT=true by default activation implementation 13:22 < jeremyrubin> ah i see 13:23 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:26 < mcm-mike> I like it here better than TG as its not as flashy and colorful (to some extent). Following the mailinglist new proposal just came in (reading it atm). 13:29 < robert_spigler> I don't have telegram. Should I download? How is the discussion there compared to IRC 13:31 < stortz> haven't seen any discussion on telegram so far 13:32 <@michaelfolkson> It is generally more informed and more technical here robert_spigler 13:32 <@michaelfolkson> But that have been some interesting conversations there too. I've generally been on here but monitoring Telegram too 13:33 < stortz> there was some talk today on the channel 13:33 < stortz> but mostly michael clarifying things 13:34 < robert_spigler> stortz michaelfolkson cool thanks 13:35 < stortz> I've seen a lot of fear regarding chainsplit 13:35 < robert_spigler> luke-jr great ML post 13:35 < stortz> both on telegram and twitter 13:35 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35 < stortz> people tend of go with LOT=false because they think it has the lowest chance of chainsplit 13:35 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:40 < luke-jr> so we need people to correct that misconception 13:42 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@192-184-130-48.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:44 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@192-184-130-48.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:48 < robert_spigler> yes, definitely 13:53 < mcm-mike> ML is active and good proposals coming in. 13:54 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.88.65] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:57 <@michaelfolkson> IRC channel for the LOT=true by default activation implementation is ##uasf for anyone who missed that earlier 13:59 -!- mcm-mike [~mcm-mike@unaffiliated/mcm-mike] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:00 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:04 < luke-jr> mcm-mike: "miners decide" is not a good proposal 14:08 <@michaelfolkson> There's some communications to do at some point on ##uasf. At least personally I will be fighting very hard the "this is anti-miners or anti-Core" narrative. I have no criticism whatsoever for mining pools or Core during the process 14:09 <@michaelfolkson> My expectation is Taproot activates well before lot is even relevant. This is not 2017 14:11 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined ##taproot-activation 14:13 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:08 <@michaelfolkson> Anonymized transcript of recent Sydney Socratic, the latter part was on Taproot activation which included (anonymized) input from Rusty and AJ amongst others https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/sydney-bitcoin-meetup/2021-02-23-socratic-seminar/ 15:09 <@michaelfolkson> Transcript of podcast with Sjors and Aaron van Wirdum on the LOT parameter https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-magazine/2021-02-26-taproot-activation-lockinontimeout/ 15:39 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:45 < queip> btw it should be in topic what LOT=true is 15:46 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 15:54 <@michaelfolkson> queip: You mean in the topic of the ##uasf channel? 15:55 < queip> michaelfolkson: here 15:56 < queip> along with link to ##uasf desu :P 15:56 <@michaelfolkson> This channel isn't for the LOT=true default implementation. This channel is for discussion anything activation related 15:57 < queip> michaelfolkson: indeed, so it might want to mention what LOT= exactly is or where to read it 15:58 -!- stortz [bb3fa187@187.63.161.135] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:01 -!- michaelfolkson changed the topic of ##taproot-activation to: General discussion on Taproot activation Logs: http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/ Discussion on the LOT=true implementation belong in ##uasf. Discussion on Taproot itself belong in ##taproot-bip-review. 16:01 <@michaelfolkson> queip: Ok done, thanks 16:06 < queip> neat 16:33 -!- michaelfolkson changed the topic of ##taproot-activation to: General discussion on Taproot activation Logs: http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/ Discussion on the LOT=true implementation belongs in ##uasf. Discussion on Taproot itself belongs in ##taproot-bip-review. 16:43 -!- rotten [~rottensox@unaffiliated/rottensox] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:53 -!- rotten [~rottensox@unaffiliated/rottensox] has joined ##taproot-activation 16:54 -!- rotten [~rottensox@unaffiliated/rottensox] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54 -!- rotten [~rottensox@unaffiliated/rottensox] has joined ##taproot-activation 16:59 -!- rotten [~rottensox@unaffiliated/rottensox] has quit [Client Quit] 16:59 < luke-jr> s/Discussion on/Development of/ ? 16:59 -!- michaelfolkson changed the topic of ##taproot-activation to: General discussion on Taproot activation Logs: http://gnusha.org/taproot-activation/ Development of the LOT=true implementation belongs in ##uasf. Discussion on Taproot itself belongs in ##taproot-bip-review. 17:00 <@michaelfolkson> luke-jr: Done 17:03 <@michaelfolkson> queip: Answering your question from ##uasf No we don't know what Core will do. There are no open PRs in Core with specific parameters thus far 17:06 < queip> can description of that LOT is/does be in some /topic then? if you want to get massive support from community then start linking the info also on irc :) 17:11 <@michaelfolkson> The most recent estimated startheight I saw was July 23rd, there is time 17:12 <@michaelfolkson> And a lot of the community isn't on IRC. But sure I'll add a link to a doc once we have one 18:25 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:04 -!- stortz [bb3fa187@187.63.161.135] has joined ##taproot-activation 19:08 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##taproot-activation 20:19 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:19 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##taproot-activation 20:57 -!- stortz [bb3fa187@187.63.161.135] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] --- Log closed Mon Mar 01 00:00:45 2021