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whoever is hosting it should announce? 11:47 < jeremyrubin> luke-jr: ? michaelfolkson? 11:48 < luke-jr> jeremyrubin: isn't that you? :P 11:49 <@michaelfolkson> jeremyrubin: I'm happy to host and announce if no one else wants to :) 11:49 <@michaelfolkson> Anything particular you'd like on the agenda? 11:49 <@michaelfolkson> Alternatively feel free to host and/or announce yourself. Anyone can 11:53 -!- parazyd [~parazyd@devuan/developer/parazyd] has left ##taproot-activation [] 11:56 <@michaelfolkson> We should get it out soon though so if you want me to do it please let me know 11:59 <@michaelfolkson> Next week's Bitcoin Core PR review club is aj PR on soft fork deployment status https://bitcoincore.reviews/19438 12:06 < luke-jr> ugh 12:06 < luke-jr> (while a good idea, the timing is terrible and is apt to just create more hurdles for actually activating Taproot) 12:06 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 12:07 < luke-jr> achow101: your branch is failing to build :/ 12:08 < achow101> eh? 12:08 < achow101> oh hidden rebase conflict 12:09 < luke-jr> which will probably come back in a backport, sigh 12:09 < luke-jr> at least it's a build failure XD 12:09 < achow101> It's just the fuzzer, so the easy resolution is to not backport it and delete the file during backport 12:25 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined ##taproot-activation 12:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27 <@michaelfolkson> luke-jr: It has been open since July so it is an old PR. I'm guessing it would make sense to try to get this merged pre activation startheight if it doesn't add a significant delay? 12:27 < luke-jr> it will only complicate things to merge it before the actual activation logic 12:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has joined ##taproot-activation 12:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has quit [Changing host] 12:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined ##taproot-activation 12:28 <@michaelfolkson> So post a Speedy Trial PR is merged but pre startheight would be ideal on merge order? Obviously that's decision of maintainers 12:29 < jeremyrubin> Ok I can announce the meeting I guess 12:29 <@michaelfolkson> Cool, thanks jeremyrubin 12:33 <@michaelfolkson> I think it is fine to say on the PR Concept ACK but I have a preference that it is merged after PR X or after startheight or whatever. I'm not clear on the magnitude of the complications and likelihood of delay to comment personally 12:34 <@michaelfolkson> We're in an unusual situation with startheight that we do want to be able to finalize a date/block height so that we can communicate to users and mining pools that the startheight is approaching 12:35 <@michaelfolkson> It really shouldn't be a surprise to them, there should be as much advance warning as possible 12:42 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:43 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##taproot-activation 12:44 < jeremyrubin> What should we have on the agenda this time? 12:57 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.166.79.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.166.79.41] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:07 -!- jonatack__ [~jon@37.165.139.59] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:10 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.166.79.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:10 <@michaelfolkson> Review the progress on the two Speedy Trial PRs? Discuss what flexibility we have with regards to timetable? Check that there are no MTP advocates out there? 13:11 * luke-jr pokes achow101 to push the fix? :P 13:13 < achow101> luke-jr: I'm working on it. it's non trivial 13:14 < luke-jr> :/ 13:15 < luke-jr> achow101: let me know if I can help, and/or when it's ready for review 13:15 < achow101> I think I've just about got it 13:25 < achow101> luke-jr: ready 13:40 -!- jonatack__ [~jon@37.165.139.59] has quit [Quit: jonatack__] 13:41 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.139.59] has joined ##taproot-activation 13:56 < jeremyrubin> I'm asking people pre-register comments that might derail the meeting 14:03 <@michaelfolkson> jeremyrubin: I don't understand. What do you mean pre-register comments? 14:03 < jeremyrubin> if you're going to e.g. advocate for MTP on a technical basis, pre-register your comment 14:03 < jeremyrubin> if you're going to advocate against ST at all, pre-register your comment 14:04 < jeremyrubin> that sort of things 14:04 < jeremyrubin> ie things that based on where consensus seems to be should be raised in advance, since the discussion is an attempt to finalize not re-open concerns yet to be raised 14:05 <@michaelfolkson> Right, for things we're not expecting to hear I think that makes sense. For other things they need discussion 14:06 < jeremyrubin> Of course 14:06 <@michaelfolkson> I'm not expecting to hear opposition to ST and I'm not expecting to hear technical arguments for MTP. Of course I/we could be surprised 14:09 <@michaelfolkson> The technical argument for MTP that *has* been raised so far is it is smaller code diff. Other than that I haven't heard anything 14:09 < jeremyrubin> i mean a pure technical argument 14:09 < jeremyrubin> that's a social/effort argument 14:10 < jeremyrubin> the only technical argument for MTP I'm aware of is that miners/users/etc attempting to upgrade actually *do* operate on wall clocks, not block time. 14:10 <@michaelfolkson> Sure. Just trying to be precise :) 14:10 < jeremyrubin> if we had more volatility in block height growth this would be an issue, but it's largely not 14:18 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.139.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:46 < jeremyrubin> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-March/018699.html << Taproot Activation Meeting scheduled for this Tuesday 14:59 -!- gchain [gustafmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-regukkmmqhmknzvr] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:00 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.139.59] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:03 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.139.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.139.59] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:07 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.139.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.165.139.59] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:10 <@michaelfolkson> Thanks jeremyrubin 15:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:11 -!- murray [~murray@static.38.4.181.135.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:11 -!- murray is now known as Guest65934 15:12 -!- murrayn [~murray@unaffiliated/murrayn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:13 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has quit [Changing host] 15:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:17 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 15:19 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##taproot-activation 15:24 -!- jesseposner [~jp@2601:645:200:162f:cdcb:4aa3:6f4a:6e13] has quit [Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. 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