--- Log opened Tue Mar 09 00:00:51 2021 00:33 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 00:33 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 00:42 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:42 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 01:36 -!- meshcoll- [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-fxgnvsfciueukqqj] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:38 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 01:42 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.166.110.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:06 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-qjonxuxpnxmzzqjx] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 03:11 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-qjonxuxpnxmzzqjx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 04:05 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-vbhvluwoeowgddsh] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 04:48 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 04:51 -!- mol [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:54 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 05:20 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:30 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 05:46 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-vbhvluwoeowgddsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:56 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-irngybgfmgpzypua] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 07:57 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 07:58 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:54 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 09:14 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 09:18 -!- mol [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 09:21 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:35 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:41 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 10:37 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 10:37 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 10:41 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Client Quit] 10:42 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 11:13 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:15 -!- Teleportando [8eb30758@d142-179-7-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 11:19 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 11:23 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@205.209.28.54] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 11:54 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 12:08 < luke-jr> what is gained by not using a hash of the "key" in the spk? 12:10 < belcher> pubkeys are visible so you can do ring signatures 12:10 < belcher> thats a possible way of proving that a LN channel exists with greater privacy 12:11 < belcher> prove that an LN channel exists without revealing the exact UTXO of it 12:12 < belcher> also, as the public key is visible it can be tweaked to obtain another keypair for which the private key is also known... this is used by snicker coinjoin 12:13 < belcher> (iv maybe tunnel-visioned on privacy, perhaps theres other improvements like greater efficiency because a hash function is avoided) 12:15 < luke-jr> :o 12:17 < luke-jr> belcher: couldn't you just include the pubkeys with the ring signature or such? 12:17 < belcher> pubkeyhash hides the pubkeys from random people out there who would construct the ring signature 12:18 < belcher> someone creating a ring signature can do it without needing to interact with the owner of the pubkey at all, as long as they know the pubkey 12:18 < luke-jr> oh right 12:20 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:46 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.192.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:32 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 14:15 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:40 < ghost43> it also saves a tiny bit of space as instead of storing both the hash and the pubkey in the chain, only the pubkey is stored 15:42 < ghost43> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0341.mediawiki#cite_note-2 15:46 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:25 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 16:26 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 16:26 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 17:15 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 17:18 -!- mol [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:34 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@205.209.28.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: robert_spigler 18:02 -!- robert_spigler [robertspig@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fqzdcayiqboawwcs] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 18:05 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:06 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 20:03 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:46 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 20:47 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has quit [Changing host] 20:47 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 21:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 22:10 -!- Teleportando [8eb30758@d142-179-7-88.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##taproot-bip-review 23:58 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Mar 10 00:00:53 2021