--- Log opened Tue Mar 16 00:00:57 2021 05:51 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@unaffiliated/kanzure/bot/gnusha] has joined ##uasf 05:51 -!- Topic for ##uasf: Development of a BIP 8(1 year, LOT=true) Taproot activation implementation https://github.com/BitcoinActivation | logs http://gnusha.org/uasf/ 05:51 -!- Topic set by michaelfolkson [~michaelfo@2a03:b0c0:1:e0::23d:d001] [Thu Mar 4 07:15:43 2021] 05:51 [Users ##uasf] 05:51 [@ChanServ ] [ luke-jr ] 05:51 [@michaelfolkson] [ maaku ] 05:51 [ _0x0ff ] [ moneyball ] 05:51 [ AaronvanW ] [ otoburb ] 05:51 [ adam3us_ ] [ pox ] 05:51 [ ajonas ] [ qubenix ] 05:51 [ andytoshi ] [ queip ] 05:51 [ belcher ] [ rabidus ] 05:51 [ brg444 ] [ robert_spigler] 05:51 [ cguida1 ] [ RubenSomsen ] 05:51 [ darosior ] [ RusAlex_ ] 05:51 [ DeanWeen ] [ shesek` ] 05:51 [ devrandom ] [ stortz ] 05:51 [ felixweis ] [ uasf ] 05:51 [ ghost43_ ] [ waxwing_ ] 05:51 [ gnusha ] [ willcl_ark ] 05:51 [ kanzure ] [ windsok ] 05:51 [ ksedgwic ] 05:51 -!- Irssi: ##uasf: Total of 35 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 33 normal] 05:51 -!- Channel ##uasf created Mon Apr 10 08:31:48 2017 05:53 -!- Irssi: Join to ##uasf was synced in 141 secs 07:13 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:20 -!- waxwing_ is now known as waxwing 07:20 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@193.29.57.116] has quit [Changing host] 07:20 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has joined ##uasf 07:24 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:29 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##uasf 08:01 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined ##uasf 08:01 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:02 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##uasf 08:03 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:05 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 08:38 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:46 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 08:52 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10 -!- temp345903485 [bf60434a@191.96.67.74] has joined ##uasf 09:12 -!- Teleportando [8eb30758@d142-179-7-88.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##uasf 09:12 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 09:38 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##uasf 09:40 -!- temp345903485 [bf60434a@191.96.67.74] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:52 -!- OP_NOP [bf60434a@191.96.67.74] has joined ##uasf 09:57 -!- OP_NOP [bf60434a@191.96.67.74] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:57 -!- OP_NOP_ [OP_NOP@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/opnop/x-41418994] has joined ##uasf 09:58 -!- OP_NOP_ is now known as OP_NOP 10:49 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:03 -!- lucasmoten [~lucasmote@136.144.35.169] has joined ##uasf 11:08 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 11:13 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:25 -!- justobserving837 [44961646@S0106f8a097f03715.ed.shawcable.net] has joined ##uasf 11:25 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 11:26 -!- peterrizzo_1 [44c18924@ool-44c18924.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##uasf 11:29 -!- justobserving837 [44961646@S0106f8a097f03715.ed.shawcable.net] has left ##uasf [] 11:48 -!- elector [~elector@gateway/tor-sasl/elector] has joined ##uasf 12:07 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08 -!- shesek` is now known as shesek 12:08 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has quit [Changing host] 12:08 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined ##uasf 12:21 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##uasf 13:09 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@205.209.28.54] has joined ##uasf 13:25 -!- lucasmoten_ [~lucasmote@136.144.35.169] has joined ##uasf 13:28 -!- lucasmoten [~lucasmote@136.144.35.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:08 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 15:17 < luke-jr> so… anyone care to merge #2? :P 15:20 <@michaelfolkson> I thought stortz was happy to do merging? 15:20 <@michaelfolkson> Oh not here 15:21 < luke-jr> could wait, or someone else can do it too 15:22 < luke-jr> #2 is fairly janitorial - already in Core 15:22 * luke-jr shrugs 15:26 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 15:35 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: queip, AaronvanW 15:37 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined ##uasf 15:44 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has joined ##uasf 16:08 -!- peterrizzo_1 [44c18924@ool-44c18924.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:21 < luke-jr> stortz: hey 16:23 < luke-jr> who here is interested in moving this forward? 16:28 < stortz> hey 16:29 < stortz> are you still pursuing this UASF 16:29 < stortz> seems like ST is coming along 16:35 < stortz> I'm hoping it just gets merged and it works both on deploying taproot and ending the philosophical discussion over what should be the upgrading mechanism 16:43 < stortz> luke-jr I have no problem committing the PR either way 16:49 < luke-jr> stortz: if ST succeeds, it avoids ending the discussion, which continues indefinitely until resolved 16:50 < luke-jr> ST is not a resolution.. 16:50 < luke-jr> stortz: PR #2 can be merged any time 16:50 < luke-jr> note that without the 1y/UASF after it, ST is very controversial and will fall apart socially 16:52 < stortz> if ST succeeds, doesn't it make the case for upgrades to be deployed using it 16:57 < luke-jr> stortz: ST without UASF fallback would be a BAD precedent 16:57 < luke-jr> the only reason ST is acceptable is because we still have the 1y+UASF in progress at the same time, and because ST is explicitly not intended as a primary activation mechanism 16:59 < stortz> bip8 was supposedly the primary activation method, isn't it? 17:00 < luke-jr> ST alone is not acceptable, is my point 17:00 < luke-jr> if the goal is to establish ST alone as a precedent, I and many others will NACK it 17:04 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@205.209.28.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:34 * luke-jr pokes https://github.com/BitcoinActivation/bitcoin/pull/2 17:40 < stortz> I can't merge it btw 17:41 < stortz> I think only you can 17:43 < luke-jr> O.o 17:45 < luke-jr> stortz: try now 17:55 < stortz> now it's working 17:58 < luke-jr> cool; how long will you be here? about to eat dinner 18:20 < stortz> I'll probably be online for a couple hours 18:21 < stortz> just ping whenever 18:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 18:28 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 < luke-jr> stortz: this one goes next: https://github.com/BitcoinActivation/bitcoin/compare/0.21+taproot…luke-jr:bip8_minimal?expand=1 18:35 < luke-jr> err 18:35 < luke-jr> https://github.com/BitcoinActivation/bitcoin/compare/0.21+taproot...luke-jr:bip8_minimal?expand=1 18:38 < stortz> where is the lockinontime parameter 18:38 < stortz> did you just remove it? 18:43 < stortz> it's using nHeight just like achow's ST logic, I like it better over real time 18:44 < stortz> the timeout height is when it locks? 18:46 < luke-jr> it's not in that PR 18:53 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:27 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined ##uasf 19:28 < rusty> luke-jr: I note the closed https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19573. I was going to try to implement a LOT=true flag option on top of that; do you have other PRs which replace it? 19:56 -!- stortz [c8b9cbcf@200.185.203.207] has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 20:10 < luke-jr> rusty: I was waiting to open one until after ST is merged, but I can push a branch - I expect it will change tho 20:10 < luke-jr> in fact it already needs rebase :P 20:11 < luke-jr> rusty: pushed: bip8_lottrue-0.21 bip8_taproot_st-0.21 bip8_taproot-0.21 20:12 < luke-jr> rusty: but expect to need to rebase again 20:12 < rusty> luke-jr: I suspect discussion will stop if ST merges, and we'll simply do ST from now on. Until, of course, it fails and then we divide into "beg the miners" and "beg the devs" camps :( 20:12 < rusty> luke-jr: thanks! 20:13 < luke-jr> rusty: if that's the case we shouldn't do ST :p 20:13 < luke-jr> I guess that's why you NACK'd 20:13 < rusty> luke-jr: I agree. But it's easy, and marshmallow tests IRL are hard. 20:14 < luke-jr> rusty: IMO releasing Core w/ Taproot including both ST + LOT=True, before ST-only Core, will help 20:14 < luke-jr> rusty: (which is my current target for LOT=True branches) 20:15 < rusty> Heh, well, you know my strong preference is for LOT=true to exist in tree, and be a user-enabled thing. So I'll commit to reviewing your branches (esp for stuff like the recent allowance for <10% non-signalling bloks) 20:16 < luke-jr> rusty: sure, I'm still planning to PR to Core mainline, just isn't the first place I expect it to get released at this point 20:16 < luke-jr> rusty: hope you don't mind reviewing on the BitcoinActivation repo? that seems the most likely target 20:17 < luke-jr> rusty: in fact, stortz opened https://github.com/BitcoinActivation/bitcoin/pull/3 earlier and it could use review 20:17 < luke-jr> mostly the same as the commits in achow's branch 20:18 * luke-jr wonders why CI failed 20:19 < luke-jr> (looks like an intermittant test bug - rerunning) 20:50 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 20:54 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 20:59 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:08 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##uasf 21:22 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:25 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined ##uasf 21:48 -!- shesek` [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has joined ##uasf 21:52 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:11 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 22:16 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:20 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 23:24 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has joined ##uasf 23:29 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:e5c7:b876:8a32:755a] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:29 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:43 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined ##uasf 23:53 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Mar 17 00:00:58 2021