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http://gnusha.org/uasf/ 02:02 -!- Topic set by michaelfolkson [~michaelfo@2a03:b0c0:1:e0::23d:d001] [Thu Mar 4 07:15:43 2021] 02:02 [Users ##uasf] 02:02 [@ChanServ ] [ lucasmoten__ ] 02:02 [ _0x0ff ] [ luke-jr ] 02:02 [ adam3us_ ] [ michaelfolkson] 02:02 [ ajonas ] [ moneyball ] 02:02 [ andytoshi ] [ OP_NOP ] 02:02 [ belcher_ ] [ otoburb ] 02:02 [ brg444 ] [ pox ] 02:02 [ cguida2 ] [ qubenix ] 02:02 [ copumpkin ] [ queip ] 02:02 [ darosior ] [ rabidus ] 02:02 [ DeanGuss ] [ robert_spigler] 02:02 [ devrandom ] [ RubenSomsen ] 02:02 [ felixweis ] [ RusAlex ] 02:02 [ ghost43_ ] [ shesek ] 02:02 [ gnusha ] [ uasf ] 02:02 [ jeremyrubin] [ waxwing ] 02:02 [ kanzure ] [ willcl_ark ] 02:02 [ ksedgwic ] [ windsok ] 02:02 -!- Irssi: ##uasf: Total of 36 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 35 normal] 02:02 -!- Channel ##uasf created Mon Apr 10 08:31:48 2017 02:04 -!- Irssi: Join to ##uasf was synced in 141 secs 02:21 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:31b3:f222:23f5:41ba] has quit [Remote 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[OP_NOP@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/opnop/x-41418994] has joined ##uasf 20:51 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 21:02 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03 -!- _andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined ##uasf 21:17 -!- prayank [~andr0irc@2401:4900:30d0:b453:d900:b6f0:db5d:cd1c] has joined ##uasf 21:19 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##uasf 21:22 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:25 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:57 < robert_spigler> Is plan Y vs. Plan Z still being discussed? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K3pmH09yXLTHGV3wqFZGR3ei7QVwtdEwo0PjI2NHD3w/edit#gid=0 22:03 < robert_spigler> It's not really earliest/latest activation; it's earliest activation, or activates at date _____? 22:05 < robert_spigler> Or really, fist activation date, second activation date 22:06 < robert_spigler> (if failed). There's no possible range in between 22:14 < robert_spigler> So 'Earliest Signal' has been brought forward 3m to be compatible with ST; 'Latest Signal' is either the same it was original (which is now 12m after ST fails - Plan Z) or 15m after ST fails (Plan Y). 'Earliest Activation' and 'Latest Activation' pushed back 3 months to be compatible with ST 22:17 < robert_spigler> That makes the only major difference b/w Plan Y and Plan Z the 12 or 15 months between the UASF 'Latest Signal' and the ST Latest Signal. 22:19 < robert_spigler> I have no preference. A couple of days ago I said I was only going to run a the UASF if the ST failed, but after seeing rusty and luke-jr 's argument and thinking about it more, I believe it's important to get this out while or even before Core has released the ST 22:20 < luke-jr> robert_spigler: it can activate any period in between 22:20 < luke-jr> robert_spigler: definitely before IMO 22:21 < luke-jr> robert_spigler: as for the timeout height.. I think it will end up being up to whoever does the merging in the end 22:21 < luke-jr> doubt others care enough 22:21 < robert_spigler> oh yeah, because it's a ST, followed by another MASF with a UASF 22:21 < robert_spigler> my bad 22:22 < robert_spigler> I'm on too little sleep 22:22 < robert_spigler> Is this trying to be shipped as a single activation logic that is ST compatible, or two activation logics 22:23 < luke-jr> single seems best 22:23 < luke-jr> double has more complexity, and weird behaviour 22:23 < robert_spigler> that makes sense 22:23 < luke-jr> (eg, you want miners to NOT signal during ST, because to signal AFTER ST activates sooner) 22:24 < robert_spigler> So I guess my concern would be, what if miners activate taproot, say end of November 22:24 < luke-jr> ? 22:25 < robert_spigler> ST has failed. Core wouldn't have been able to release any followup to it yet. Taproot activates for UASF 22:26 < luke-jr> Core can just merge in BA stuff 22:26 < luke-jr> anyway, part of why to get this released first 22:26 < robert_spigler> Yeah I guess that's the deadline. They have 3 months to do it 22:26 < luke-jr> is so people don't bother with ST-only 22:26 < luke-jr> 3 months is more than they're giving for ST now ;) 22:26 < robert_spigler> Yeah or they can run this 22:26 < robert_spigler> Good points 22:27 < luke-jr> it's probably better if people get used to not using mainline Core for activations anyway 22:27 < robert_spigler> Ok yeah, sounds good to me 22:27 < robert_spigler> Yeah, that seems to work with the "devs propose, miners activate, users override" 22:28 < luke-jr> I don't think Core doing MASFs is good for this tho 22:30 < luke-jr> ST works because it will be long over 22:38 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:31b3:f222:23f5:41ba] has joined ##uasf 22:42 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:31b3:f222:23f5:41ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:22 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 23:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Mar 19 00:00:00 2021