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Why? 12:43 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined ##uasf 13:04 < michaelfolkson> luke-jr: I think that would be premature. I'm happy if AJ's PR makes progress but if it is block height versus MTP I think everyone is in agreement that the former is superior 13:06 < michaelfolkson> This argument that block height is such a big change that we can't merge it before the deadline seems weak to me. And even if that's the case the timetable doesn't need to be set rigidly in stone. A few weeks wiggle room is fine imo 13:06 < luke-jr> robert_spigler: it is gratuitously incompatible with a proper activation, and would set numerous terrible precedents at best, possibly delaying Taproot to 2023 13:07 < luke-jr> robert_spigler: we can only convert BIP9 logic to BIP8 because BIP9 isn't used. if BIP9 were used, that falls apart. 13:07 < michaelfolkson> I'm not hearing anyone fiercely defend MTP (other than maybe it makes sense to go with inferior option in face of deadlines) 13:08 < luke-jr> which means we couldn't realistically have BIP8 code until after ST fails; which pushes everything another 3 months off, into 2022 to begin MASF, and 2023 for UASF 13:41 < robert_spigler> Yeah I definitely prefer BIP8 be used, but I don't see why everything falls apart if BIP9/aj's PR is chosen 13:41 < robert_spigler> The argument, as I understand it, being that the diff is smaller 13:42 < robert_spigler> "which means we couldn't realistically have BIP8 code until after ST fails" Oh, I see 13:45 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:91ce:fed5:e6df:4dcf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:91ce:fed5:e6df:4dcf] has joined ##uasf 14:19 < jeremyrubin> luke-jr: can you make a diagram of why this is true? 14:20 < jeremyrubin> It really sounds like a false claim to me 14:23 < jeremyrubin> THe only issue is ST endtime and UASF startheight yes? 14:24 < jeremyrubin> Please explain where this causes a consensus split except at the LOT=true point 14:46 < jeremyrubin> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-March/018699.html << Taproot Activation Meeting scheduled for this Tuesday 15:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined ##uasf 15:13 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:13 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has joined ##uasf 15:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has quit [Changing host] 15:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined ##uasf 15:17 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 15:19 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##uasf 15:37 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 15:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined ##uasf 15:44 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [] 18:31 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:31 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:51 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:52 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:54 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:55 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:56 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:56 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:57 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:59 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 18:59 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 19:00 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 19:11 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:91ce:fed5:e6df:4dcf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14 -!- cguida1 [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has joined ##uasf 19:14 -!- cguida [~Adium@fixed-189-203-100-232.totalplay.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined ##uasf 21:22 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:16 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:91ce:fed5:e6df:4dcf] has joined ##uasf 23:21 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@2a01:4c8:481:95c4:91ce:fed5:e6df:4dcf] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Mar 20 00:00:01 2021