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00:07 < genehacker> I've been considering one myself
00:08 < genehacker> only problem is the damned slow human growth rate
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00:38 < fenn> cool. parametric timing pulley http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1362
00:41 < fenn> tags: "useful"
00:41 < fenn> well that's good to know
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01:36 < fenn> http://www.aerogel.org/
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03:42 < fenn> urbandictionary is a great source for project names
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05:04 < chupacabra> lol
05:06 < fenn> hum nasatv is delayed by two minutes
05:07 < fenn> dudes looking at computers.. fascinating
05:08 < fenn> you'd think they'd have a telescope watching the shuttle 
05:33 < JayDugger> Yeah, space isn't always spectacular.
05:34 < QuantumG> NASA == boring people.. NASA tv = boring people filming boring people
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06:34 < JayDugger> Not quite. Occasionally NASA does something interesting.
06:34 < JayDugger> Just not recently.
06:34 < JayDugger> Like since Apollo ended. :(
06:35 < klafka> heh yeah in the last ~30 or so years
06:35 < JayDugger> 1980? 
06:35 < JayDugger> Skylab counts?
06:37 < klafka> i dunno the ~ means approximately
06:37 < klafka> :P
06:37 < JayDugger> Blah...I think will forego my usual space rant...and point out Bigelow Aerospace does interesting work right now.
06:37 < JayDugger> And return to housework.
06:43 < fenn> half-sleep idea: instead of "social" or "socialized" or "societal" how about "shared engineering knowledge database"
06:44 < parolang> The next Mars lander would have been cool...I don't know if it's still in the plan.
06:45 < parolang> Nuclear powered, I think it's called the Mars Lab or something.
06:45 < parolang> I'm rather relieved that they cut constellation.
06:45 < parolang> It sounded like constellation wasn't going anywhere.
06:52 < JayDugger> Mars Science Lab.
06:52 < JayDugger> It has a RTG, IIRC.
06:54 < parolang> yeah, I always thought that one sounded interesting, just from a technical point of view
06:54 < JayDugger> http://nuclear.gov/pdfFiles/MMRTG.pdf
06:55 < parolang> Yeah, one of those things I knew at one time but then stopped thinking about.
06:55 < JayDugger> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/launchvehicle/
06:55 < JayDugger> Altas V, in Fall 2011.
06:56 < parolang> All I know is that it is the power source of Tony Stark's arc reactor.
06:56 < JayDugger> Heh, heh...Marvel Comics did a technical manual for the Iron Man armor.
06:57 < JayDugger> "assembled by bacteria..." no fooling...
06:57 < parolang> Oh yeah?  Might be cool enough to buy :)
06:57 < JayDugger> Probably available illegally at your local source of torrents, or at your neighborhood comic book shop..."The Iron Manual."
06:58 < parolang> Or...online? :)
06:58 < JayDugger> Probably...couldn't say where you know, but there's always google.
06:58 < parolang> I have my Star Trek TNG Technical Manual in my bookcase, just in case I need to look up the power source for photon torpedos.
06:59 < parolang> That first link you gave is interesting.
07:00 < JayDugger> Oh, the RTG PDF?
07:00 < parolang> yeah
07:00 < parolang> I guess mainly because I'm unfamiliar with the technology.
07:00 < JayDugger> You can probably find a lot more if you wget -A pdf http://jpl.nasa.gov or the like.
07:01 < parolang> sure...hmm, is plutonium-238 dioxide radioactive?
07:02 < parolang> Yes...the answer is yes.
07:07 < JayDugger> Wouldn't be much point in its use for power otherwise. :)
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07:29 < genehacker> assembled by bacteria?
07:39 < JayDugger> Iron Man's armor, don't you know...arguing from fiction, yeah, I know.
08:00 < parolang> Yeah, given all we know about Iran Man's armor, being assembled by bacteria is just unrealistic.
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08:04 < JayDugger> Let's not argue imaginary hardware. I apologize for bringing it up.
08:10 < kanzure> i *am* iron man, you insensitive clod!
08:10 < kanzure> er, also, good morning
08:13 < parolang> I was just teasing JayDugger :)
08:13 < JayDugger> No worries...
08:14 < parolang> The main thing I liked about the Iron Man movie was watching the suit get constructed, the interface, etc...a guy can dream :)
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08:31 < kanzure> "I already wear sunglasses to browse the web, on account of all the flash and poor color choices."
08:31 < kanzure> "Although this is an improvement over the 90s. Back then I wore a welding mask."
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08:52 < kanzure> xprizes for human enhancement :) http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/46003499034c9b25
08:59 < Salain> "neurobiology" is...
09:00 < Salain> well it is good I guess, but things like imaging, memory, consciousness, decision making - they aren't the kind of things where an x-prize is really going to make a big impact
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09:01 < Salain> howard hughes has thrown billions at those kind of problems
09:01 < Salain> nih as well
09:05 < kanzure> a little birdie was telling me that there'll be an upcoming xprize for demonstrating the ability to encode an arbitrary sequence of numbers and have them played back perfectly (50 digits or something)
09:06 < kanzure> (yes using a savant is cheating)
09:35 < kanzure> is hanno a male or female name?
09:37 < kanzure> "strange creature lives without oxygen" http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/08/strange-creature-lives-oxygen/?test=latestnews
09:37 < kanzure> "This newfound creature, a loriciferan found more than 10,000 feet deep off the southern coast of Greece, lives completely without oxygen"
09:37 < kanzure> yay extremophiles
09:38 < kanzure> hm they are making their assumption on the lack of mitochondria and their habitat
09:38 < kanzure> but even at those depths stray oxygen atoms and o2 molecules can find their way
09:40  * kanzure looks through bmc biology for the article
09:40 < kanzure> http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcbiol/
09:40 < kanzure> http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/30 "The first metazoa living in permanently anoxic conditions"
09:40 < kanzure> pdf: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7007-8-30.pdf
09:41 < kanzure> local: http://designfiles.org/papers/The%20first%20metazoa%20living%20in%20permanently%20anoxic%20conditions%20-%20extremophiles.pdf
10:00 < kanzure> so apparently facebook apps can only run on port 80
10:00 < kanzure> facebook literally will not let you use any http server on any other port to communicate with their servers
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10:33 < katsmeow-afk> i seem to recall some living whatevers found in the deep Pacific 20+ yrs ago with trinary stranded dna, not binary ; and living without oxygen as an oxidant isn't new
10:36 < kanzure> http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-07-01_to_2010-04-20.png
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13:29 < gnusha> http://jan.krutisch.de/en/2010/04/20/the-shift-that-wasnt-meant-to-be.html
13:29 < gnusha> stalk: jan krutisch <jan.krutisch@mindmatters.de>
13:30 < gnusha> licensing discussions happening over at adafruit.com http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&p=76245
13:30 < gnusha> http://openchord.org/
13:31 < gnusha> http://www.wopular.com/open-network-lab-japan-gets-%E2%80%9Cy-combinator%E2%80%9D-incubating-global-startups
13:31 < gnusha> http://article.wn.com/view/2010/04/07/Open_for_hackers/
13:31 < gnusha> "The Last HOPE: Citizen Engineer - Consumer Electronics Hacking and Open
13:31 < gnusha> Source Hardware part 1 of 6. Speakers: Phillip Torrone, Limor Fried"
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17:05 < fenn> wah.
17:05 < Noahj> Hm?
17:09 < fenn> adl is down
17:11 < fenn> and heybryan.org
17:12 < fenn> so i have no decent remote shell
17:12 < fenn> i saw this on bioshock but i didnt think it was real: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-03/shock-bullet
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18:33 < JayDugger> Good evening.
18:36 < Noahj> Good evening... 
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18:52 < JayDugger> Evening, fenn.
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23:50 < fenn> hm
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23:51 < fenn> deltabot made with arduino and rc servos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luq8MJjxXjU&feature=player_embedded
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