# Key Points from IRC Log

• A discussion about open source hardware included mentions of the Elphel open source camera, which allows users to hack the sensor frontend for custom image processing and applications like augmented reality with barcodes.

• There was debate about the challenges of creating a sustainable fablab/makerspace, with criticism of TechShop's business model ($100/month membership fee being both too expensive for individuals and insufficient for operational costs).

• Les Filip was identified as a potential collaborator for establishing a fablab, with discussions about avoiding the space becoming just a museum or educational facility rather than a functional workshop for actual production.

• The group discussed alternatives to gel electrophoresis for DNA analysis, referencing microchip electrophoresis and silicon-based methods as potential improvements over traditional biological techniques.

• There was technical discussion about fluidic control systems for RepRap 3D printers, including the possibility of creating fluidic flipflops and using VHDL tools to convert boolean algebraic circuits into fluidic circuits.

• The conversation touched on biobrick DNA handling, noting that DNA typically comes as a dry powder or on filter paper that needs to be rehydrated before PCR amplification and plasmid vector insertion.

• Participants expressed frustration with mailing list communication, noting how discussions get fragmented, people forget previous conversations, and threading often breaks down.