# Summary of IRC Log Discussion

• Chris_99 shared a link to EMF2012 video talks (http://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/EMF2012_Video) that might be of interest to the channel participants.

• Kanzure shared information about CoffeeScript source maps (http://ryanflorence.com/2012/coffeescript-source-maps/), which could make JavaScript development less painful, prompting a brief discussion about JavaScript development challenges.

• A discussion about HumanamuH (http://humanamuh.de/), a service that predicts which people will enrich your life, revealed it suffers from the "chicken and egg" problem of insufficient user data.

• Kanzure shared Anselm's poetic critique of applying computer science metaphors to biology, emphasizing that cells are fundamentally different from von Neumann machines and require different conceptual frameworks.

• A brief discussion about nootropics took place, with Kanzure mentioning his use of Adderall (costing $185-240/month) and its effectiveness for him despite potential negative effects for others.

• There was a technical discussion about liquid nitrogen vapor, clarifying that the visible "smoke" effect is actually water vapor condensing from the air due to the extreme cold.

• Kanzure advised delinquentme on legacy project time estimates, suggesting to charge at least 10x more than initially thought and noting that a 400-hour project represents about 10 weeks of work.