# Key Points from Transhumanist IRC Discussions

• Gravitricity energy storage technology was critically analyzed, with calculations suggesting severe practical limitations—a 100 kilotonne weight system could only supply 1kW for 24 hours, indicating poor efficiency compared to alternative storage methods.

• Metal-Organic Frameworks (MOFs) were discussed as promising materials for molecular-scale manufacturing, with advantages over zeolites in synthesis ease and potential for "stamping" techniques to grow MOFs in specific patterns.

• A substantive debate compared timelines for whole brain emulation (WBE) versus artificial general intelligence (AGI), with some arguing AGI could arrive within 5-10 years through architectures like OpenCog's CogPrime, while WBE might require 20+ years of development.

• Methodological differences in technological forecasting were highlighted: WBE predictions typically rely on quantifiable trends with fewer assumptions, while AGI predictions involve more assumptions and have historically shown optimistic bias.

• The ethics of organ donation economics were debated, questioning whether donor families should receive compensation from the profitable transplantation industry, drawing parallels to life insurance incentive structures.

• AI safety concerns emerged regarding uploaded human minds, particularly around value stability during recursive self-improvement processes, with some participants describing potential "nightmarish" scenarios if values aren't preserved.