# Key Points from #hplusroadmap IRC Discussions

• A philosophical discussion established that "living forever should probably be the first goal" in transhumanism, as it provides time to achieve other objectives, highlighting the prioritization debate within the movement.

• Mark Friedenbach (maaku) recommended mind-mapping techniques and the book "Getting Things Done" for developing project management skills necessary for long-term transhumanist endeavors spanning decades.

• A substantive debate contrasted "rational engineering" versus evolutionary/brute-force approaches to life extension, with kanzure noting that Mike Darwin's preference for rational engineering may be limited given the combinatorial complexity of cellular physiology problems.

• Participants discussed cryonics strategies, with kanzure suggesting selective breeding of mice to survive cryonics as a better "Plan A" than simple end-of-life freezing, while maaku preferred a 30-year plan involving "getting Freitas/Merkle nanotools in the hands of Aubrey de Grey."

• Technical discussions covered Focused Ion Beam (FIB) technology capabilities for both etching/milling and material deposition, with CaptHindsight sharing several technical resources on the topic.

• A user shared information about a tablet with integrated pico projector potentially useful for lithography experiments, prompting further discussion about photoresist materials and equipment limitations for DIY biohacking projects.

• kanzure shared several resources including a paper on prediction market manipulation and information about Fermat's Library, a service that distributes "community-annotated papers" on a weekly basis.