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| kanzure | ISO 15926 equipment inventory management http://sourceforge.net/projects/cat15926/ | 02:10 |
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| kanzure | metaliving: http://open-rtms.sf.net/ http://transcenmentalism.org/OpenStim/ | 02:15 |
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| * Utopiah wonders if anybody is using real-time patterns of face recognition to "rate" his browsing session | 02:36 | |
| Utopiah | (using a webcam + OpenCV + stats + browsing history) | 02:38 |
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| dbolser | hey codeshepherd, still coding for FB? | 04:47 |
| codeshepherd | yes dbolser | 04:47 |
| codeshepherd | what do you work on these days dbolser | 04:47 |
| dbolser | still bioinformatics | 05:08 |
| dbolser | looking to build a game for FB though, just for me and friends | 05:08 |
| dbolser | going to try using FB plugin for Symfony | 05:08 |
| dbolser | can I use fb chat as a kind of game server? | 05:09 |
| dbolser | i.e. challenge an online friend | 05:09 |
| dbolser | (assuming appropriate permission granted by user) | 05:09 |
| Utopiah | (there is #facebook dedicated to dev. AFAIK) | 05:10 |
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| dbolser | yup | 05:17 |
| dbolser | just trying to probe codeshepherd ;-) | 05:17 |
| codeshepherd | dbolser: .. fb chat as a game server? i guess you are talking about broadcasting message.. may be XMPP is a better solution.. or facebook groups which broadcasts.. or facebook live stream inside your game | 05:19 |
| codeshepherd | chat inside facebook groups broadcasts the message to all members dbolser | 05:19 |
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| codeshepherd | sorry about the delayed response dbolser | 05:20 |
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| dbolser | np codeshepherd | 05:57 |
| dbolser | sounds interesting | 05:57 |
| dbolser | I do want to let players chat in my game | 05:57 |
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| archels | eh who's doing the KurzweilAI newsletter here again | 06:15 |
| archels | I just got it totally blank, save for the unsubscribe information. | 06:15 |
| dbolser | archels: it's the singularity | 06:22 |
| archels | heh | 06:25 |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 06:30 |
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| kanzure | archels: tmccabe37 (he left) | 08:17 |
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| kanzure | yet another NY Times reporter going after diybio | 08:29 |
| kanzure | stalk: Jed Lipinski <jedlipinski@yahoo.com> | 08:29 |
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| kanzure | i'm totally pushing "the armpit of science" on skype with him (her?) | 08:38 |
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| kanzure | metaliving: some of your questions were answered http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-10-10.log http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-10-11.log | 08:54 |
| metaliving | oh | 08:56 |
| metaliving | thanks | 08:57 |
| metaliving | i did visit those sites (open rtms and openstim) | 08:57 |
| metaliving | they seem to be dead? | 08:57 |
| metaliving | have you gotten involved with any of the two? | 08:58 |
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| kanzure | haha i showed jed http://bit.ly/diybionews and he grew sad | 09:40 |
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| kanzure | metaliving: open-rtms isn't entirely dead; check the mailing ilsts. | 09:40 |
| kanzure | *lists. | 09:40 |
| kanzure | hi qDot_ | 09:40 |
| * kanzure goes | 09:40 | |
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| qDot_ | Hi. | 09:43 |
| metaliving | do they have an irc channel? | 10:00 |
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| archels | tsk, KurzweilAI didn't even apologise for the blank newsletter. "We had a technical issue. Everyone who unsubscribed will be resubscribed." | 11:59 |
| kanzure | hah | 12:02 |
| kanzure | "everyone who unsubscribed" - i.e. everyone who clicked the only link in the email | 12:02 |
| kanzure | i imagine it was a significant portion of their users | 12:02 |
| archels | heh | 12:02 |
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| kanzure | metaliving: no, they don't | 12:23 |
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| kanzure | fenn: http://github.com/jwiegley/git-issues | 14:17 |
| kanzure | fenn: git-issues puts a copy of itself in the repo that you're working on so that your developers are using the same script version | 14:17 |
| kanzure | it doesn't look as well along as bugseverywhere.org | 14:18 |
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| tim | hi | 15:01 |
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| kanzure | on october 20th tom will be interviewed on http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fastforwardradio about transhumanism and humanity+ | 15:13 |
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| kanzure | M-xDaeken: know anything about PDF-1.6 encryption? :/ | 17:07 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 17:59 |
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| augur | anyone know if theres any research into using ambient microwaves as a powersource for small devices? | 18:06 |
| JayDugger | Research, no. I have heard anecdotes of people doing that. | 18:08 |
| JayDugger | For AM radio receivers, in fact. | 18:09 |
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| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 19:59 |
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| qDot_ | Anyone else around here tried the Emokit emotiv stuff? | 21:08 |
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| kanzure | qDot_: Daeken. | 21:22 |
| qDot_ | Well, yes, he wrote it. | 21:22 |
| qDot_ | And I just added a new encryption key. | 21:22 |
| qDot_ | I'm now wondering if the encryption is per unit type or per unit though. | 21:23 |
| kanzure | unit type, last i heard. | 21:24 |
| qDot_ | Yes. And my unit didn't work, which required me extracting a new key, and there's a key generator function somewhere in the program which makes me think this is possibly somehow serial number based, not unit type based. | 21:24 |
| kanzure | i haven't had my headset in a while so i can't test :( | 21:27 |
| qDot_ | Ah well. | 21:27 |
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| qDot_ | Well, the drivers work on OS X now too. | 21:37 |
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| metaliving | qDot_: when did you buy your Epoc? | 22:06 |
| qDot_ | metaliving: I didn't. | 22:07 |
| qDot_ | This is a loaner from someone, and I'm guessing it's a preorder. | 22:07 |
| metaliving | oh, okay | 22:07 |
| qDot_ | Since's it's all special limited edition and shit. | 22:07 |
| metaliving | i'm just looking for some kind of confirmation that if i buy it now, the encryption method won't be completely changed in response to the release of the emokit | 22:08 |
| qDot_ | I'm not sure they /can/ change it that fast. | 22:08 |
| qDot_ | Then again, they're the only distributor, so who knows. | 22:08 |
| * qDot_ still of the "Buy a neurosky" opinion. :) | 22:09 | |
| qDot_ | Sure, it's one sensor and flakey as hell, but at least they're not fuckwads. | 22:09 |
| metaliving | one sensor = no sensors | 22:09 |
| metaliving | it's completely useless | 22:09 |
| qDot_ | Not completely! | 22:09 |
| qDot_ | Just mostly. | 22:09 |
| metaliving | come on | 22:09 |
| metaliving | :P | 22:09 |
| qDot_ | They know how to treat developers, at least. | 22:10 |
| metaliving | i'm even afraid that the epoc won't be accurate enough, i don't even want to consider the neurosky | 22:10 |
| qDot_ | Well, you get what you pay for, and you're paying for a video game controller. :) | 22:11 |
| metaliving | well, otoh, emotiv has (allegedly) done much more R&D to come up with epoc | 22:11 |
| metaliving | so it makes sense that they would try to protect it | 22:11 |
| qDot_ | You have more R&D time when you release 3 years late. | 22:11 |
| qDot_ | ... Protect the raw signals, when 99% of their buyers care about the processed signals that are completely done in software? | 22:12 |
| metaliving | well, the raw signals are their excuse to have something to sell more expensively | 22:13 |
| qDot_ | Yup. | 22:14 |
| qDot_ | 'cause I don't exactly know many gamers all over either product. | 22:14 |
| qDot_ | Though Neurosky has made a fucking killing in the toy sector | 22:14 |
| qDot_ | Between the mind trainer and the star wars stuff. | 22:14 |
| metaliving | i don't think emotiv has done a good job advertising its product. at all | 22:15 |
| qDot_ | They didn't make any friends at GDC. | 22:16 |
| qDot_ | While Neurosky commissioned a game from Squenix. | 22:16 |
| metaliving | so they're taking the 'cheap research' route | 22:16 |
| qDot_ | Not a very good game, mind you. | 22:16 |
| metaliving | obviously. a game based on such a gimmicky controller cannot be particularly good. | 22:17 |
| metaliving | anyway | 22:18 |
| metaliving | i might end up buying the research edition | 22:18 |
| qDot_ | What's the difference in the research and the consumer? | 22:18 |
| metaliving | raw signals? | 22:18 |
| qDot_ | Oh, so, nothing. | 22:18 |
| qDot_ | That seems a little odd. | 22:18 |
| metaliving | if i was certain that the emokit worked, then i wouldn't bother of course. | 22:18 |
| qDot_ | Well, it works for me. | 22:19 |
| metaliving | if they have changed the encryption though i'm screwed | 22:20 |
| qDot_ | I dunno how they would. | 22:21 |
| qDot_ | Going with a midstream change like that would be a complete bitch for them. | 22:21 |
| metaliving | i guess | 22:21 |
| qDot_ | Especially if it's synchronized on the chip. They obviously have no firmware reload mechanism, a la the novint falcon. | 22:21 |
| metaliving | they might be bluffing on the forums | 22:22 |
| qDot_ | Man, I've worked with so many other companies that have been so much nicer about this. | 22:22 |
| qDot_ | Neurosky were fucking great, even invited me to their offices. Novint have been pretty cool. The journey to wild divine people were just quiet. | 22:23 |
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