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| @kanzure | http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/09/21/editorial-upverter-another-closed-source-vampire-exploits-open-hardware-for-ventrue-capital-pr-and-profit/ | 06:33 |
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| @kanzure | Editorial: Upverter, another closed source vampire exploits open hardware for ventrue capital, PR, and profit | 06:33 |
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| @kanzure | time to spam this: | 07:03 |
| @kanzure | http://singularityu.org/launchpad/ | 07:03 |
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| @kanzure | so i'm watching cosmos for the first time, and it's opening up with this crazy little segment against the cold war | 08:47 |
| @kanzure | as if this is a "please donate to help save kids in africa" ad | 08:47 |
| @kanzure | wtf | 08:47 |
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| @kanzure | Grrr_: it worked.. | 09:29 |
| Grrr_ | Ah, excellent. | 09:30 |
| Grrr_ | So this inactivity is the norm? | 09:30 |
| @kanzure | just say whatever you want to say | 09:33 |
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| Mokbortolan_ | only YOU can prevent inactivity! | 09:37 |
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| Grrr_ | lol | 09:42 |
| Grrr_ | Okay... | 09:42 |
| Mariu | 1. Serve the public trust | 09:42 |
| Mariu | 2. Protect the innocent | 09:42 |
| Mariu | 3. Uphold the law | 09:42 |
| Mariu | 4. Ensure the safety of OCP senior staff members | 09:42 |
| Grrr_ | What do you wish to achieve wrt to Transhumanism, and how? | 09:43 |
| Mokbortolan_ | 4. Ensure the safey of OCP senior staff members^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H | 09:44 |
| Grrr_ | OCP? | 09:45 |
| Mokbortolan_ | it's from a movie about a cyborg policeman | 09:46 |
| Mariu | OCP stands for Omni Consumer Products, in that movie | 09:46 |
| Mokbortolan_ | a corporate policeman in a city owned by a company named OCP | 09:46 |
| Grrr_ | Anyone here familiar with Orion's Arm? | 09:51 |
| Mariu | I'm a little | 09:51 |
| Mariu | an MMO | 09:51 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I'm more familiar with his belt | 09:51 |
| Mokbortolan_ | oh | 09:51 |
| Mariu | Blade Runner ? | 09:52 |
| Mariu | xD | 09:52 |
| Urchin | there are people here who haven't seen RoboCop? | 09:52 |
| Mokbortolan_ | or don't remember things abou tit | 09:52 |
| Mokbortolan_ | my wife will watch a movie and not remember anything about it 6mo later | 09:53 |
| Mokbortolan_ | drives me nuts | 09:53 |
| Grrr_ | I've seen Robocop... It's just been a long time... | 09:53 |
| Mokbortolan_ | So a pirate captain goes to the urologist | 09:54 |
| Mokbortolan_ | he says to the doctor, "Arr, doc, ye gotta see this" | 09:54 |
| Grrr_ | not an MMO, I'm referring to anders world building project. | 09:54 |
| Mokbortolan_ | he pulls down his breeches to reveal a small ships wheel firmly lodged around the base of his genitals | 09:54 |
| Mokbortolan_ | and exclaims painfully, "Arr! You gotta help me, it's drivin' me nuts!" | 09:55 |
| Urchin | Grrr_: yes, I'm familiar with OA | 09:55 |
| Urchin | not it's latest developments | 09:56 |
| Urchin | I sort of got disilusioned with it when they dropped Creative Commons | 09:56 |
| Mariu | I will try OA when I will have some time | 09:58 |
| Urchin | do they still cover the next 10500 years, or did they move a bit forward with their coverage? | 09:59 |
| Grrr_ | Same time frame to the best of my knowledge. | 10:00 |
| Grrr_ | Favorite Archailect? | 10:00 |
| Urchin | UrchinStar has the coolest name | 10:01 |
| Urchin | and I like Omegarapture | 10:01 |
| Urchin | Keter, possibly | 10:02 |
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| Grrr_ | Yeah, Keter or The Transcend for me. | 10:05 |
| Urchin | Omegarapture because he's one of us | 10:05 |
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| Grrr_ | Can someone explain to me - I'm a newcomer to this channel - why so many say nothing? | 10:09 |
| Mokbortolan_ | they're saving up their wistom | 10:09 |
| Omega | Huh what | 10:09 |
| Mokbortolan_ | wisdom | 10:09 |
| Mariu | lol | 10:09 |
| eudoxia | you mean that there's no activity or some users have been idle for sixteen years? | 10:09 |
| Mokbortolan_ | any minute now, they'll bust out with some incredibly profound statement that they've been putting together for weeks | 10:09 |
| @kanzure | Grrr_: because we are always online | 10:10 |
| Omega | I think most of the people that are always online just have bouncers | 10:10 |
| Urchin | Grrr_: we just leave our irc clients online all the time | 10:10 |
| Omega | Or... you could do that I guess. | 10:10 |
| Urchin | mine is running in a screen on a shell server | 10:11 |
| Urchin | and has racked up a 53 day uptime | 10:12 |
| * eudoxia reads the logs | 10:12 | |
| eudoxia | the Silk God is cool too | 10:12 |
| Urchin | silk god? | 10:12 |
| eudoxia | re: favorite archailect | 10:12 |
| Urchin | I had to google it | 10:13 |
| Urchin | they probably added it after I stopped paying attention to OA | 10:13 |
| eudoxia | OA could move much faster if it was more of a Wiki thing | 10:14 |
| Mariu | I think of Bentusi as an advanced species | 10:15 |
| Urchin | OA requires a fleshing out of every article in a discussion, and discussing that much physics and stuff that way is not the best thing in wiki format | 10:16 |
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| fenn | when they came for the cyborgs there was no-one left to stand up for me. | 11:13 |
| @kanzure | hi fenn | 11:17 |
| fenn | "Mice fed the chemical resveratrol are impervious to the harmful effects of a high-fat diet" i keep reading this and wondering what the harmful effects of a high fat diet actually are | 11:25 |
| fenn | if anything | 11:25 |
| fenn | also, nature's citations don't even show the title of the paper, wtf are they thinking | 11:26 |
| @kanzure | some citation forms- like in chemistry journals- exclude titles | 11:26 |
| @kanzure | so it's only a list of authors, a date and maybe a journal abbreviation | 11:26 |
| Urchin | some big journals require that to save space | 11:27 |
| @kanzure | because bytes cost so much | 11:27 |
| fenn | we are running out of electrons after all | 11:27 |
| @kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/64ad8acd3c47043a | 11:27 |
| fenn | they are using them all up in those wasteful atom smashers | 11:27 |
| @kanzure | > "And we invest a lot in infrastructure, the tags and metadata attached to | 11:27 |
| @kanzure | > each article that makes it discoverable by other researchers through search | 11:27 |
| @kanzure | > engines, and that links papers together through citations and subject | 11:27 |
| @kanzure | > matter. | 11:28 |
| @kanzure | > All of that has changed the way research is done today and makes it more | 11:28 |
| @kanzure | > efficient. That's the added value that we bring." | 11:28 |
| fenn | wow thanks guys | 11:28 |
| fenn | maybe you could OCR your fucking documents too | 11:28 |
| * fenn goes to sleep | 11:32 | |
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| delinquentme | ZOMG | 12:17 |
| delinquentme | HIO ALL | 12:17 |
| delinquentme | <3 <3 <3 | 12:17 |
| Mariu | xD | 12:17 |
| Mariu | hey delinquentme | 12:17 |
| delinquentme | so theres a new innocentive challenge | 12:23 |
| delinquentme | https://www.innocentive.com/ar/workspace/challengeDetail?challenge=9932720 | 12:23 |
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| uniqanomaly | "The Solvers are not required to transfer exclusive intellectual property rights to the Seeker. Rather, by submitting a proposal, the Solvers grants to the Seeker a royalty-free, perpetual, and non-exclusive license to use any information included in this proposal" | 12:42 |
| uniqanomaly | ACTIVE SOLVERS: 693 | 12:42 |
| uniqanomaly | right | 12:42 |
| uniqanomaly | https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9932821 | 12:43 |
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| delinquentme | its marked as an active solver if you accept the terms to see the entirety of the project | 13:07 |
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| Mariu | later guys | 13:31 |
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| @kanzure | who is doing lucidant polymers? | 15:17 |
| @kanzure | "providing custom polymer matrices for biological separations" | 15:18 |
| @kanzure | eh.. | 15:18 |
| @kanzure | "Our core technical expertise is in polyacrylamide chemistry. Lucidant can synthesize linear or cross-linked polyacrylamides, as bulk powders or nanoparticles, to customer specs. If you have an existing need or a novel application, call us with your requirements." | 15:18 |
| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 17:14 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, lets do it in here | 18:52 |
| * delinquentme evil grin | 18:52 | |
| delinquentme | so all that watermark shit is ehhh | 18:53 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: http://singularityu.org/launchpad | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | generated (obv) on the fly and interted into the papers | 18:53 |
| @kanzure | yes if you look at the pdf files you will see some other metadata inserted | 18:53 |
| @kanzure | like "AdobeWatermarkerPdf2001" | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | so would it be hard at all to just forcibly *take* them outside of their normal operating system? | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | ideally legal is awesome | 18:54 |
| @kanzure | what? | 18:54 |
| @kanzure | you mean, manually scan the papers? | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | i mean just break the system so that they're not watermarking | 18:55 |
| @kanzure | no. it's not that hard to remove the watermarks, but it's a little hard to tell if you got all of it | 18:55 |
| @kanzure | like the visible watermarks are easy to remove | 18:55 |
| @kanzure | delete the relevant pdf object, boom it no longer shows up | 18:55 |
| @kanzure | but what about that other compressed data in a non-visible element. trickier to tell.. i need to figure out the compression scheme :x | 18:55 |
| delinquentme | oh so there are effectively individual layers and you can remove what you need | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | cool! | 18:57 |
| @kanzure | yes that's how pdf works | 18:58 |
| @kanzure | except when they are assholes and make the watermark a part of the image | 18:58 |
| @kanzure | go pick out say, an elsevier paper | 19:02 |
| @kanzure | and try to find the watermarks | 19:02 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ | 19:02 |
| delinquentme | ok you're telling me that the watermarks arent an issue | 19:04 |
| delinquentme | OSCAR4, OPSIN, ChemicalTagger << these are the chemical parsers | 19:05 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, once a researcher submits a paper | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | they still own that paper right? | 19:13 |
| Stee| | this depends on the journal in some cases | 19:13 |
| Stee| | in many cases no | 19:13 |
| Stee| | they can't publish that 'exact' paper again | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | Stee|, what if we wanted an excerpt of that journal | 19:13 |
| Stee| | basically, try emailing the dude | 19:13 |
| Stee| | there's a chance that his university paid the fee to be able to distribute the article as much as they want | 19:14 |
| Stee| | or back-door, they simply don't care | 19:14 |
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| delinquentme | ate some delicious ass ice cream ... now im freezing my ass off #firstworldproblems | 20:26 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: http://gnusha.org/logs/2011-06-10.log shows some of the watermark removal stuff | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | 13:35 < kanzure> hmm some journals are using this to watermark their pdfs: http://www.appligent.com/stamppdf-batch | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | 13:35 < kanzure> heh "StampPDF Batch starts at $1,995.00 (USD) for a single server with up to 4 cores" | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | 13:57 < kanzure> also, for removing a first page with IP address info (like from IOP): | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | 13:57 < kanzure> pdftk input.pdf cat 2-end output.pdf | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | 13:59 < kanzure> 104/105.pdf have been moved into http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/manual-watermark-removal-example.zip (but i'll probably delete this too) | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | i posted some python file somewhere.. uh.. | 20:29 |
| delinquentme | ok so you've got some code that begins to work around this stuff | 20:29 |
| @kanzure | ask and ye shall receive (if i happen to remember where i put it) | 20:30 |
| JayDugger | Doesn't that pdftk remove the entire first page, and not the watermark? | 20:34 |
| @kanzure | yes | 20:42 |
| @kanzure | the watermark code is the stuff i haven't remembered where i put | 20:42 |
| @kanzure | 1:21 < kanzure> well i used imagemagick in the past (via 'convert') to dump pdf to images and then move signatures by coordinates or otherwise blank shit out | 20:44 |
| @kanzure | 11:21 < streety> fair enough, makes sense with context | 20:44 |
| @kanzure | 11:53 < kanzure> ah here's one: | 20:44 |
| @kanzure | 11:53 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/Patterning%20design%20in%20color%20at%20the%20submicron%20scale.pdf | 20:44 |
| @kanzure | 11:53 < kanzure> see left-hand side | 20:44 |
| @kanzure | 11:58 < kanzure> some of the pdf obj streams seem to be zipped | 20:44 |
| delinquentme | muh feet r cold | 20:44 |
| @kanzure | 12:16 < kanzure> using that same file, try this: | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:16 < kanzure> cat temp.pdf | grep -a "Length " | sort | uniq -c | sort -k2nr | 20:45 |
| delinquentme | must invent foot warmer first | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:16 < kanzure> as you can see, they repeat the watermark four times (once for each page) | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:17 < kanzure> in this case lines 63-67 inclusive are the watermark on the first page | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:20 < kanzure> iirc pypdf can handle FlateDecode? | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:21 < streety> I'm not using pypdf, I think that was the package then returned text but no spaces between words | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:21 < streety> I'm using pdfminer instead. It was a pain to get my head around how it worked but generally produces good output | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:31 < kanzure> cat objstream.dat | python -c'import sys;import zlib;data=sys.stdin.read();print zlib.decompress(data)' | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:37 < kanzure> also that's probably just the display of the text and doesn't actually remove the compressed text from the file | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:41 < kanzure> the objects with "Length 40" in this file are the pdf/display commands | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:42 < kanzure> the objects like on line 6, 13, 19 and 25 are the "Downloaded by" lines | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:57 < kanzure> "Producer: Acrobat Distiller Command 3.01 for Solaris 2.3 and later (SPARC)" | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | 12:57 < kanzure> acs is running on solaris? | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | latex-over-http collaboration stuff https://www.sharelatex.com/ | 20:57 |
| @kanzure | ah http://scribtex.com/ has git integration | 20:58 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_polymerase_II | 22:04 |
| delinquentme | whats the II part about? | 22:04 |
| yashgaroth | differentiates it from the other ones | 22:06 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, so you | 22:07 |
| delinquentme | re saying that there are 2 kinds of polmerase? | 22:07 |
| yashgaroth | of rna pol, there are several, as with dna pol | 22:07 |
| yashgaroth | rna pol 2 is the 'interesting' one | 22:08 |
| * delinquentme sits quietly | 22:09 | |
| delinquentme | yars. go on. | 22:09 |
| yashgaroth | well uh, the other rna pols just make short RNAs like tRNA and RNAi | 22:10 |
| yashgaroth | pol 2 makes mRNA for translation | 22:11 |
| yashgaroth | why...do you ask? | 22:11 |
| delinquentme | well it just struck me as weird that there are 2 kinds | 22:11 |
| @kanzure | there are many kinds of polymerase molecules | 22:11 |
| @kanzure | in humans i think there's at least 20 or 40.. something like that | 22:12 |
| delinquentme | oh and I just learned about TRANSCRIPTION FACTORS! | 22:12 |
| delinquentme | >_< | 22:12 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: you should watch an ocw class about molecular biology | 22:12 |
| @kanzure | molecular biology is much more enjoyable when you're not being tested on random kinetic equations | 22:12 |
| yashgaroth | haha if you think a dozen variants of pol is weird, there are tens of thousands of G-protein coupled receptors | 22:12 |
| @kanzure | gcmp stuff? | 22:13 |
| @kanzure | erm | 22:13 |
| @kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_guanosine_monophosphate | 22:13 |
| @kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_protein-coupled_receptor | 22:14 |
| @kanzure | nevermind | 22:14 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, kanzure article worth reading? | 22:14 |
| @kanzure | wikipedia | 22:14 |
| yashgaroth | molecular biology of the cell | 22:14 |
| @kanzure | there might be an ok review somewhere, but wikipedia is ok for this sorta high-level stuff | 22:14 |
| delinquentme | ah! so these are cellular receptors | 22:15 |
| @kanzure | there are many types of receptors | 22:15 |
| @kanzure | all sorts of things are classified as 'integral proteins' | 22:15 |
| @kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_membrane_protein | 22:15 |
| @kanzure | well, i guess i should clarify that an integral protein doesn't have to be the actual receptor | 22:16 |
| @kanzure | it's rather the channel | 22:16 |
| delinquentme | an "integral protein" is something which crosses the cellular membrane? | 22:16 |
| @kanzure | "A transmembrane protein (TP) is a protein that goes from one side of a membrane through to the other side of the membrane. Many TPs function as gateways or "loading docks" to deny or permit the transport of specific substances across the biological membrane, to get into the cell, or out of the cell as in the case of waste byproducts. As a response to the shape of certain molecules these "freight handling" TPs may have special ways of folding up or | 22:16 |
| yashgaroth | or just embedded in the membrane, it doesn't have to necessarily cross all the way | 22:17 |
| delinquentme | check | 22:17 |
| @kanzure | see bacteriorhodopsin | 22:17 |
| delinquentme | I've heard germany has alot of vocational school | 22:17 |
| delinquentme | s | 22:17 |
| delinquentme | i wonder if they've got one for bleeding edge biolofy | 22:18 |
| delinquentme | biology** | 22:18 |
| yashgaroth | are you in germany? | 22:19 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: i didn't really have that much special biology training, | 22:19 |
| delinquentme | pittsburgh | 22:19 |
| @kanzure | just read some textbooks, watch videos that don't suck | 22:20 |
| delinquentme | true true | 22:20 |
| @kanzure | most textbooks can be read in a week tops if you're not doing homework from it (fucking hell) | 22:20 |
| @kanzure | at least in biology | 22:20 |
| yashgaroth | it's true | 22:20 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, I guess i need to work on spee dreading? | 22:20 |
| delinquentme | speed* reading | 22:20 |
| yashgaroth | what do you aim to learn about biology? | 22:21 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: well the average high school graduate reads 400 wpm, | 22:21 |
| @kanzure | the average college grad reads 600-700 wpm | 22:21 |
| @kanzure | i recommend getting up to 900-1100 wpm.. | 22:22 |
| @kanzure | "While the average adult reading rate is 250 words per minute with 70% comprehension,[3] speed reading programs typically claim that improvements to 500 words per minute or more while maintaining or improving comprehension are possible." | 22:23 |
| @kanzure | wtf... 250? | 22:23 |
| @kanzure | 500 wpm isn't that hard | 22:23 |
| delinquentme | never been tested on comprehension | 22:23 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, I want to get a job working on regen medicine | 22:24 |
| @kanzure | no you don't | 22:24 |
| @kanzure | i know you too well. | 22:24 |
| delinquentme | something having to do w genomics | 22:25 |
| delinquentme | ehh web apps and all the other shit is ... | 22:25 |
| delinquentme | meh. | 22:25 |
| @kanzure | you want to play with cool toys, do good work and not have to put up with bs | 22:25 |
| @kanzure | that's not a job | 22:25 |
| @kanzure | web apps are a job too | 22:25 |
| @kanzure | but i'm pretty sure you don't want to do those anymore | 22:25 |
| yashgaroth | haha that's my job | 22:25 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, you're a programmer? | 22:25 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: me too.. except also android, iphone, windows | 22:25 |
| yashgaroth | fuck no, I'm in biochemistry | 22:26 |
| yashgaroth | mostly protein production | 22:26 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, where at? | 22:26 |
| delinquentme | SV? | 22:26 |
| yashgaroth | if by SV you mean sorrento valley, then you're very close | 22:27 |
| delinquentme | oh so sandiego then? | 22:27 |
| yashgaroth | yup | 22:27 |
| delinquentme | not bad i applied @ organovo | 22:27 |
| delinquentme | hella cool company | 22:27 |
| yashgaroth | ah yes I've heard of them | 22:28 |
| delinquentme | printing body parts man! | 22:28 |
| delinquentme | all for it | 22:28 |
| yashgaroth | I don't make anything bigger than 250 kilodaltons usually | 22:29 |
| yashgaroth | unless you count plasmids, which I don't | 22:29 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, so you're kind of a biochemist | 22:30 |
| delinquentme | derp | 22:30 |
| delinquentme | its close to bed time | 22:30 |
| delinquentme | :D | 22:30 |
| yashgaroth | I'm classically a molecular biologist, but I go where jobs take me | 22:30 |
| @kanzure | sleep is for poor people | 22:30 |
| yashgaroth | "poors" | 22:30 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, so daily tools are...? | 22:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | grow me a patch of retina that I can insert under my skin with some NGF so I can use it as a data input channel | 22:31 |
| yashgaroth | FPLC mostly, TC hoods | 22:31 |
| delinquentme | Mokbortolan_, Advanced cell tech has that | 22:31 |
| delinquentme | FPLC? | 22:31 |
| Mokbortolan_ | little lasers'd do great | 22:31 |
| delinquentme | related to HLPC? | 22:31 |
| @kanzure | you don't just patch in neurons like that :P | 22:31 |
| yashgaroth | yes, but bigger | 22:32 |
| yashgaroth | HPLC is mostly for analysis, FPLC for large-scale purification | 22:32 |
| Mokbortolan_ | that's just another problem to overcome | 22:32 |
| yashgaroth | you've got two retinas already, surely you can spare one for data input | 22:32 |
| Mokbortolan_ | no, I need those for looking around | 22:32 |
| @kanzure | use your tongue instead | 22:32 |
| Mokbortolan_ | the tongue works pretty good | 22:33 |
| delinquentme | Mokbortolan_, there are already brain - memory interfaces | 22:33 |
| delinquentme | and you dont need a retina | 22:33 |
| Mokbortolan_ | but then you have a hard time talking | 22:33 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: ? | 22:33 |
| delinquentme | just diodes in your skull | 22:33 |
| @kanzure | memory interfaces? | 22:33 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i've already showed u this :D | 22:33 |
| @kanzure | you mean ted berger's stuff? | 22:33 |
| @kanzure | the artificial hippocampus algorithms? | 22:33 |
| delinquentme | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2011%2F06%2F17%2Fscience%2F17memory.html&ei=PdEsT8q7AcLc0QG_04nsCg&usg=AFQjCNEomEnRkXxgaEDwK8VSSyEWksg-lA | 22:33 |
| delinquentme | deadwyler | 22:34 |
| delinquentme | awesome last name | 22:34 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, where'd you go to school and what level of degree? | 22:34 |
| @kanzure | well berger is at least cited in there | 22:34 |
| delinquentme | i want a phd in 3 years | 22:34 |
| yashgaroth | UW-Seattle, BS | 22:34 |
| Mokbortolan_ | I doubt the electrodes they used to attach it were designed to last a human's lifespan... but I guess that's also just another problem to overcome | 22:34 |
| delinquentme | oh | 22:34 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: go get a phd in some third world country, done | 22:35 |
| @kanzure | just show up and hand them money | 22:35 |
| @kanzure | why the hell do you want the degree? | 22:35 |
| yashgaroth | I may do a phd but I don't wanna work 12 hour days and/or 8 years, for scraps | 22:35 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^ | 22:35 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: if you actually have research you need to do, you should just do it | 22:36 |
| Mokbortolan_ | http://www.gizmag.com/retinal-stem-cell-transplant/21210/ | 22:36 |
| @kanzure | regardless of a doctorate attached to it. | 22:36 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, agreed | 22:38 |
| delinquentme | I simply dont have research to do yet | 22:38 |
| @kanzure | i thought you wanted to do lab automation :( | 22:38 |
| @kanzure | really, i think cheap lab automation is super important | 22:38 |
| @kanzure | compared to the phd pyramid scheme | 22:39 |
| yashgaroth | hey man undergrads are way cheaper than most equipment | 22:39 |
| @kanzure | not at my rates :3 | 22:39 |
| delinquentme | so ive got to go out read lots of research and begin designing experiments | 22:40 |
| yashgaroth | well, get the basics down first | 22:43 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, im kind of anti the traditional learning model | 22:45 |
| @kanzure | why experiments? | 22:45 |
| delinquentme | granted programming isnt biology | 22:45 |
| @kanzure | i mean, why not pick something like, "i want to build x" and just build that | 22:46 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i mean just something novel / useful | 22:46 |
| @kanzure | novel or useful pick one :P (kidding) | 22:46 |
| delinquentme | another option is to go find experiments and attempt to recreate them | 22:46 |
| yashgaroth | if you just jump into current research you'll have a difficult time, I still do | 22:46 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, oh for sure ... lots of googling | 22:47 |
| delinquentme | but you can highlight >> right click >> google <highlighted text> | 22:47 |
| delinquentme | ill get it sorted :D | 22:47 |
| yashgaroth | aight | 22:47 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, thats bad ass though | 22:48 |
| delinquentme | FLPC | 22:48 |
| delinquentme | thats like *PRODUCTION* level chemical development | 22:48 |
| yashgaroth | well that is what I'm doing with it | 22:48 |
| * delinquentme knows what hes squeezing one off to tonight | 22:48 | |
| delinquentme | :P | 22:49 |
| delinquentme | yeah man thats hella cool | 22:49 |
| delinquentme | OK IM OUT KIDS | 22:49 |
| delinquentme | 6 hours | 22:49 |
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| @kanzure | did he just.. | 22:52 |
| @kanzure | what | 22:52 |
| yashgaroth | I don't know if he was implying shitting or masturbation, and frankly I don't wanna know | 22:52 |
| ybit | yashgaroth: don't read this: he meant masturbation | 22:56 |
| yashgaroth | well, I suppose that's the preferable one | 22:56 |
| @kanzure | damn it ybit | 22:56 |
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| @kanzure | oh shit | 23:21 |
| @kanzure | this guy i'm talking with is senior manager of product dev at pacbio | 23:21 |
| yashgaroth | heh, pacbio | 23:22 |
| @kanzure | apparently they use c# to run their sequencer | 23:22 |
| @kanzure | :/ | 23:22 |
| @kanzure | hmm how do i absorb his brain | 23:25 |
| @kanzure | maybe i could make it out like i'm a clueless-but-stellar software person that he decides to hire | 23:25 |
| klafka | hey kanzure or anyone else good w/ mongo? | 23:29 |
| klafka | tell them i bought stock in them so don't suck | 23:29 |
| yashgaroth | you poor bastard | 23:29 |
| klafka | ah well | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | klafka: i've kicked around mongodb once or twice.. don't know if i'm stellar or not | 23:30 |
| klafka | ah | 23:30 |
| klafka | i have a bunch of bson files | 23:30 |
| klafka | and i want to query one of them | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | a-ha | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | that's how i knew this guy | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | his name seemed familiar | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/polymerase/Real-time%20DNA%20sequencing%20from%20single%20polymerase%20molecules%20-%202009.pdf | 23:30 |
| @kanzure | he's a co-author on that paper. that's how i know his name. | 23:30 |
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