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| klafka | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/antonyevans/glowing-plants-natural-lighting-with-no-electricit thoughts? | 01:12 |
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| gene_hacker | I doubt it will be very bright | 01:24 |
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| archels | personally, I think the project is way cool, also to give diybio some well-deserved positive rep. But to claim that it can be used as actually lighting, to read a book by or so, is ridiculous. | 01:29 |
| klafka | yes agreed on both counts | 01:30 |
| klafka | i was wondering if people here knew the people involved | 01:30 |
| fenn | antony evans was a founder of senstore with rachel kalmar, a quantified self startup. http://singularityhub.com/2012/01/12/senstore-wants-to-make-a-tricorder-that-monitors-the-entire-body/ | 01:38 |
| fenn | i never met him though. curious how senstore seems to have disappeared from the internet. i guess that's what these singularity university types do, move on to the next flashy thing | 01:40 |
| fenn | they used to hold periodic meetups called "sensored" where people would show off prototypes and talk about electronics and stuff | 01:43 |
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| kanzure | my new best friend: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/IMG_20130512_080014.jpg | 06:18 |
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| kanzure | neweather_: hello | 09:38 |
| neweather_ | hi | 09:38 |
| neweather_ | kanzure hi | 09:40 |
| neweather_ | ah total noob | 09:40 |
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| neweather | hello? | 09:54 |
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| kanzure | neweather: yes? | 10:02 |
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| neweather | kanzure: sorry, noob trying to get my head round this | 10:20 |
| kanzure | around what? | 10:21 |
| neweather | hmm irc | 10:21 |
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| cathalgarvey | Love the topic lads! | 13:56 |
| cathalgarvey | Just here to abuse community resources as usual https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111901005844 | 13:56 |
| cathalgarvey | @paperbot https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111901005844 | 13:57 |
| kanzure | paperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111901005844 | 13:57 |
| cathalgarvey | paperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378111901005844 | 13:57 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Cooperative%20effects%20by%20the%20initiation%20codon%20and%20its%20flanking%20regions%20on%20translation%20initiation.pdf | 13:57 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Cooperative%20effects%20by%20the%20initiation%20codon%20and%20its%20flanking%20regions%20on%20translation%20initiation.pdf | 13:57 |
| kanzure | excellent | 13:57 |
| cathalgarvey | Every time I come here I make a fool of myself haranguing paperbot. I'm sorry paperbot. | 13:58 |
| kanzure | sup? | 13:58 |
| cathalgarvey | TY @Kanzure | 13:58 |
| kanzure | also i found that "YOU MUST HAVE A PHD" email thread pretty bizarre | 13:58 |
| cathalgarvey | Haha, last minute workload before holidays is all! :) | 13:58 |
| cathalgarvey | Wanna get a gene ordered ASAP and want to get the nitty-gritty of translation initiation looking good on paper first.. | 13:58 |
| cathalgarvey | Haven't read that thread yet? | 13:58 |
| kanzure | ah, well, whatever it's just boring stuff | 13:59 |
| cathalgarvey | Have been meaning to but there are so many posts and I am already so very old | 13:59 |
| cathalgarvey | How about yoruself? What's news over yonder hill | 14:00 |
| kanzure | today i am goofing off on a rom hacking marathon | 14:01 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal-demo/wiki/Announcement | 14:01 |
| kanzure | http://sanqui.sweb.cz/screen/2013051221%3A53%3A49diyhpl.us-~yenatch-pokecrystal-extras-tilemonster--Chromium-c7e8.png | 14:02 |
| cathalgarvey | Awesome! :) | 14:03 |
| cathalgarvey | ROM hacking at that depth must involve some assembly, no? | 14:05 |
| cathalgarvey | Didn't know you went that deep into SW hacking | 14:05 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: here's a presentation, | 14:05 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/pokered/crystal/aha-pokemon-crystal.pdf | 14:05 |
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| kanzure | cathalgarvey: also these are fun, | 14:06 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/tree/master/extras/vba.py | 14:06 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/blob/master/extras/gbz80disasm.py | 14:06 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/blob/master/extras/crystal.py | 14:06 |
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| kanzure | it has full test coverage: https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/blob/master/extras/tests.py | 14:07 |
| kanzure | and 100,000+ lines of hand-crafted asm https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/blob/master/main.asm | 14:07 |
| * heath thinks fenn is looking for a job | 14:08 | |
| heath | nobody uses linkedin unless they are looking, right? | 14:09 |
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| klafka | lol | 14:10 |
| klafka | i use it as an ego boost | 14:10 |
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| klafka | when people ask me if i want a job | 14:10 |
| cathalgarvey | Some people use it as a way to have a wang-off about how many people they "employ". But for the most part, yea. Job=hunting. | 14:10 |
| kanzure | oh man, linkedin is a lousy way to get employment | 14:10 |
| klafka | is it? | 14:11 |
| kanzure | yeah, you get harassed by recruiters constantly | 14:11 |
| cathalgarvey | :P | 14:11 |
| klafka | oh | 14:11 |
| cathalgarvey | In Ireland that would be considered a magical place. | 14:12 |
| cathalgarvey | People chase rainbows here for jobs. | 14:12 |
| klafka | like i said - i like the ego boost | 14:12 |
| cathalgarvey | paperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780123851208000036 | 14:12 |
| klafka | no one started doing that kanzure till i changed my job description to 'data scientist' | 14:12 |
| kanzure | fenn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5637663 | 14:12 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Chapter%20threeDesigning%20Genes%20for%20Successful%20Protein%20Expression.txt | 14:12 |
| klafka | turns out people don't give a fuck about support engineers | 14:12 |
| cathalgarvey | Thank you paperbot | 14:12 |
| kanzure | klafka: you literally put data scientist? you mad man. | 14:12 |
| kanzure | brownies: ^ check that shit out | 14:12 |
| klafka | why? | 14:12 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: nope no access on that last one | 14:12 |
| kanzure | klafka: because nobody calls themselves a "data scientist".. that's just poor marketing. | 14:12 |
| klafka | umm lots of people do | 14:13 |
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| cathalgarvey | Ah well, it's just more noise about Gene Designer, which I'm not going to be using anyway.. :) | 14:13 |
| klafka | holy crap i haven't logged into my 'professional gmail' in months | 14:13 |
| cathalgarvey | @kanzure In case you haven't noticed, there are oceans of stupid people with too much money desperate to get in on this "big data" they keep hearing about in TED talks. | 14:14 |
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| cathalgarvey | Anything with "data" in the title gets them salivating like Pavlov's dogs. | 14:14 |
| * data_astronaut explores datar | 14:14 | |
| klafka | kanzure: maybe is should call myself 'machine learning guru ' | 14:14 |
| kanzure | klafka: i think "machine learning" is very well defined at this point; it means you top out at SVM or something. | 14:14 |
| kanzure | or that you might at least have an ability to write and understand kernels | 14:15 |
| klafka | what really? | 14:15 |
| klafka | you top out ? | 14:15 |
| klafka | i'd think it means you top out at the bleeding edge of ML research or some shit | 14:15 |
| kanzure | what? i mean, i haven't seen anyone hiring a "machine learning" person that knows things beyond svm and mcmc or something | 14:15 |
| cathalgarvey | Machine learning has a role in Kernels? Show me this proto-skynet, I would flash it onto my phone. | 14:15 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: wrong type of kernel | 14:15 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: unfortunately | 14:15 |
| klafka | cathalgarvey: yeah | 14:15 |
| klafka | kernel spaces | 14:16 |
| kanzure | klafka: btw evidence to the contrary would be appreciated/neat | 14:16 |
| klafka | is what they are referring to | 14:16 |
| klafka | kanzure: what do people that know machine learning call themselves then? | 14:16 |
| klafka | like beyond mcmc and svm | 14:16 |
| klafka | it's funny because svm and mcmc have nothing to do with each other | 14:16 |
| klafka | :P | 14:16 |
| cathalgarvey | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/protocol/10.1007%2F978-1-61779-564-0_15 | 14:16 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f7907f865e118a6fffc8b5f1076e2f2f.txt | 14:16 |
| * data_astronaut doesn't understand | 14:16 | |
| kanzure | klafka: oh sure there's definitely little relation, but i would expect a machine learning person to know both. | 14:16 |
| * data_astronaut starts hiring people based on if they know what corn kernels are | 14:16 | |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: sorry, no access on that one | 14:16 |
| klafka | cathalgarvey: they refer to 'kernel machines' SVM is a good example of a kernel machine | 14:16 |
| cathalgarvey | Stupid gene designer papers. Little signal, all paywall | 14:16 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: did you see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5687832 ? | 14:17 |
| * data_astronaut welcomes people to alabama's "silicon valley" with corn kernels for now on | 14:17 | |
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| data_astronaut | gotta stay on the cutting edge | 14:17 |
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| cathalgarvey | How's SLF going these days? :) | 14:18 |
| kanzure | i have acquired 20+ TB | 14:18 |
| kanzure | working out logistics | 14:19 |
| cathalgarvey | TB? | 14:19 |
| kanzure | terabytes | 14:19 |
| cathalgarvey | As in, of data or capacity?? | 14:19 |
| kanzure | capacity; i have been running out of room for a while now and only have 20%. | 14:19 |
| cathalgarvey | You realise that if you try to personally DL 20 TB of paywalled data, you'll get arrested, right? | 14:20 |
| cathalgarvey | That's been pretty comprehensively proven already | 14:20 |
| kanzure | i think you're wrong | 14:20 |
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| kanzure | but also, there's a lot of public domain and CC-BY-SA stuff that needs to be catalogged and copied too | 14:21 |
| kanzure | NTRS stuff was "public domain" but we fucking don't have it anymore | 14:21 |
| cathalgarvey | I think you can't argue with clear precedent; downloading too much science, even with a legitimate reason (as Aaron had), gets you arrested. | 14:21 |
| kanzure | oh, aaronsw made a bunch of mistakes | 14:21 |
| cathalgarvey | Even "public domain" stuff on JSTOR isn't "public domain" because it has their stupid letterhead on it, and they claim derivative work. And in the US, that works. | 14:21 |
| cathalgarvey | You're making a mistake right now; Freenode have server logs and you *founded* Science Liberation Front. The Aaron prosecutors were using his blog post advocating open science as evidence. | 14:22 |
| kanzure | whether or not it's legal is an interesting question, but i'm still interested in having an organization or entity with that complete collection. | 14:22 |
| cathalgarvey | You're openly tied to an "organisation" that clearly advocates and encourages people to break the law in the US; that alone is enough to put you in prison, AFAIK. | 14:22 |
| cathalgarvey | By all means, I'm all for freedom of science. But you're using *your real name* to do it, I'm boggled | 14:23 |
| kanzure | hey, i know you think i'm doing something wrong, but i haven't even told you important details that would give you enough information | 14:23 |
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| kanzure | i'm not using my real name to do anything 'cept paperbot maybe | 14:23 |
| cathalgarvey | I don't think you're doing something "wrong". Civil disobedience is great when a law is injust. I think you're doing something very, very foolish. | 14:23 |
| kanzure | if you thing paperbot is morally wrong, then please elaborate. | 14:23 |
| kanzure | or legally wrong, even | 14:23 |
| kanzure | sorry, i definitely meant legally wrong | 14:24 |
| cathalgarvey | And if there are mitigating details, for the love of god don't tell me! :) | 14:24 |
| cathalgarvey | You've already said too much in public channels! | 14:24 |
| cathalgarvey | Legally? | 14:24 |
| kanzure | oh my god i have storage space~~~~ | 14:24 |
| cathalgarvey | A) Advocating and encouraging copyright infringement. You might even count hosting a group as "abetting", and given how silly US copyright law is, it'd probably stick. | 14:24 |
| kanzure | actually, i've had takedown requests that i've replied to and had amicable resolutions | 14:25 |
| cathalgarvey | B) Hosting a (much appreciated) robot on a huge clearnet server (Freenode) that explicitly serves the function of evading paywalls, which the CFAA has been beefed up to make into a serious crime. | 14:25 |
| kanzure | i think you are reading too much into what paperbot does | 14:25 |
| kanzure | it's just a shortcut for me reading papers | 14:25 |
| cathalgarvey | Glad to hear it, but if they wanted to push for a non-amicable solution, they'd win | 14:25 |
| * kanzure yawns | 14:26 | |
| cathalgarvey | You can say that all you like, but you're hosting a gateway to direct copyright infringement. That's even more concrete a breach of Copyright law than a torrent index, and index hosts have been put in prison. | 14:26 |
| kanzure | woo http://sanqui.sweb.cz/screen/2013051223%3A26%3A45bgb-PM_CRYSTALBYTE-085e.png | 14:27 |
| kanzure | Sanky: i am abusing your links | 14:27 |
| cathalgarvey | The guys who founded TPB never once broke copyright and the US arranged for prison sentences for them. Exhausted ridiculous political capital to do so, too. | 14:27 |
| kanzure | cathalgarvey: by that logic everyone in the world is hosting a gateway to direct copyright infringement | 14:28 |
| cathalgarvey | @kanzure Copyright is innately illogical, yes. But there are clear examples of legal precedent that show what you're doing can get you arrested and convicted of a felony in your country. | 14:28 |
| cathalgarvey | That's all I'm saying; not "wrong" but "foolish". | 14:29 |
| kanzure | i don't think reading papers is that big of a deal; this is what they are here for. | 14:29 |
| cathalgarvey | If you want to help civil disobedience, host a zero-knowledge webserver for science, hope it's not abused for porn, and hope instead that it hosts articles. | 14:29 |
| cathalgarvey | I think anything that costs a powerful lobbying corporation in the US money is a big deal to them, and traditionally results in a crackdown. | 14:30 |
| cathalgarvey | Elsevier have *all the lobby money* and a vested interest in their paywall; it's all they have. | 14:30 |
| kanzure | i think suing a mendelsevier user would look extremely poor | 14:30 |
| cathalgarvey | If they see someone pulling an Aaron, they'll respond vigorously. At *best*, you'll be forced to delete your stuff and take down your server. More likely, you're looking at a felony. | 14:30 |
| kanzure | "pulling an Aaaron" sigh, just because we both read papers doesn't mean that we're doing anything really similar. | 14:31 |
| cathalgarvey | That's why they don't sue individuals who pirate; they're not actually that stupid. But take this to the 20TB level, and it's another ballgame. | 14:31 |
| kanzure | btw, in the US, storing content is not a felony (except state secrets, i think, but i'm not completely sure) | 14:33 |
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| cathalgarvey | For personal use, no. | 14:37 |
| cathalgarvey | So if you use your accounts to make local copies and never share them, that's fine (though check for a "fair usage policy" that might get your account frozen). | 14:37 |
| cathalgarvey | But you should really read the CFAA and the recent amendments they are trying to / have already added: it would make it a felony to set up a gmail account under a false name, so weigh that against what's implied by "Science Liberation Front". | 14:38 |
| cathalgarvey | I'm only offering my concerns here, but I do think you're treading a fine line now, and walking into fire if you push with some of your implied goals. | 14:38 |
| kanzure | i think you are a fearmonger | 14:39 |
| kanzure | i assume you also disprove of me talking with the FBI? | 14:39 |
| cathalgarvey | Nope, because you're american. | 14:39 |
| cathalgarvey | And I didn't disapprove of "talking with the FBI", I disapproved of the FBI asserting a sort of responsibility over Europeans. | 14:40 |
| klafka | to be fair kanzure you are a pseudo public figure under this pseudonym | 14:40 |
| klafka | everyone knows who you are | 14:40 |
| klafka | :p | 14:40 |
| klafka | ro most people | 14:40 |
| klafka | also your whois has your name | 14:40 |
| kanzure | oh also pokecrystal; all sorts of "copyright law" "evil remixing" going on there. gotta hate that too. | 14:40 |
| kanzure | klafka: yep, my whois also has my address and phone number. nobody calls me :( it's so sad. | 14:40 |
| cathalgarvey | Dude, you keep misunderstanding me as "hating" copyright infringement. I don't, I think copyright is a farce. | 14:41 |
| cathalgarvey | But disliking copyright doesn't make it not-exist. It's one of the most unreasonably inflated legal structures in existence. | 14:41 |
| cathalgarvey | You can end up with more severe penalties for downloading an mp3 than for beating someone senseless. | 14:41 |
| cathalgarvey | On that basis, I was suggesting that encouraging or directly aiding in the mass-infringement of literature owned by a prototypical, exceptionally-well-funded copyright troll might not be wise. | 14:42 |
| cathalgarvey | s/owned/"owned"/ | 14:42 |
| klafka | kanzure: what do you use for 3d printing stuff? | 14:42 |
| kanzure | klafka: my friends | 14:43 |
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| kanzure | klafka: i use them for things. | 14:43 |
| kanzure | klafka: i don't actually have a 3d printer of my own. | 14:43 |
| klafka | i mean software wise | 14:43 |
| klafka | i was considering getting one | 14:43 |
| klafka | a cubex one | 14:44 |
| kanzure | oh, software things. depends on the device itself, they usually have "official" software. reprap's firmware is ok. | 14:44 |
| klafka | oh really | 14:44 |
| klafka | but don't they all take standardized formats? | 14:44 |
| kanzure | people like to use slic3r, openscad, brlcad, etc. | 14:44 |
| cathalgarvey | @klafka If you're talking about modelling and are not a solids purist, I recommend OpenSCAD. Oldie, but goldie. | 14:44 |
| klafka | i see | 14:45 |
| klafka | i need to think more about generative art in 3d printing a bit | 14:45 |
| kanzure | i would recommend brlcad or something else other than openscad for generative art | 14:46 |
| kanzure | openscad has this shitty custom language | 14:46 |
| kanzure | and if you want stl, brlcad is fine with that. | 14:46 |
| kanzure | *fine for that | 14:47 |
| klafka | cool | 14:47 |
| superkuh | I recently removed all the books from my mirror for the reasons cathalgarvey suggests. Now I just host journal articles. For those I am willing to take the risk. | 14:52 |
| superkuh | I have a feeling a full copy of my technical books mirror might show up somewhere though. Completely unrelated to me, of course. | 14:52 |
| kanzure | cathal is just angry about lawsuits, paperbot is not going to cause the apocalypse. | 14:53 |
| cathalgarvey | Eh, I'm not angry | 14:53 |
| cathalgarvey | I've no reason to be angry, especially as Paperbot's done me a favour today. :) | 14:54 |
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| klafka | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1592/phco.23.12.1238.32704/abstract | 15:16 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/55b302baaca6ff29c5f68aebb5ccdaa.txt | 15:16 |
| klafka | can someone get me that rpretty please | 15:17 |
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| cathalgarvey | paperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002228360800795X?np=y | 15:57 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Ribosome%20Collisions%20and%20Translation%20Efficiency%3A%20Optimization%20by%20Codon%20Usage%20and%20mRNA%20Destabilization.pdf | 15:58 |
| cathalgarvey | paperbot: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/324/5924/255.long | 16:08 |
| paperbot | SSLError: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:504: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 632, in send) | 16:08 |
| cathalgarvey | ruh roh | 16:08 |
| cathalgarvey | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/324/5924/255.long | 16:08 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Coding-Sequence%20Determinants%20of%20Gene%20Expression%20in%20Escherichia%20coli.pdf | 16:08 |
| cathalgarvey | Thank goodness. I've tried opening a "free access" account with ScienceMag so many f-ing times | 16:09 |
| kanzure | unknown protocol :rolleyes: | 16:09 |
| kanzure | weird. | 16:09 |
| kanzure | python-requests supports HTTPS just fine... i thought? | 16:09 |
| cathalgarvey | Well, it is "SSLError", so at least it's been dispatched correctly to an SSL handler | 16:12 |
| cathalgarvey | SSL23 looks like an old SSL format though, perhaps it's not supported by Python? | 16:12 |
| * cathalgarvey tries to recall what versions of SSL border the SSL/TLS divide | 16:13 | |
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| cathalgarvey | ofc, "string.replace("https://","http://") works fine too | 16:13 |
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| * heath was prescribed modafinil | 17:49 | |
| * heath has to now find an insurance company that actually pays | 17:50 | |
| heath | $1026/month for 200mg | 17:50 |
| heath | $300/month for 100mg | 17:50 |
| kanzure | hey congrats you're getting screwed harder than i am on adderall | 17:50 |
| kanzure | oh | 17:50 |
| kanzure | hey congrats we're both being screwed about the same | 17:51 |
| heath | it's ~$500/month for armodafinil | 17:53 |
| heath | hey cathalgarvey, where are you working these days? | 17:53 |
| kanzure | cathal is working out of his supervolcano lair | 17:55 |
| cathalgarvey | Hello! | 17:55 |
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| cathalgarvey | Still working between the lab-in-rent's-house and my own kitchen at home (not for wetware, ofc) | 17:55 |
| ParahSail1n | what's adderall cost you? | 17:56 |
| kanzure | it varies by month and by pharmacy, $200-$300/mo (dose is the same each month) | 17:56 |
| ParahSail1n | so thats how you type so fast | 17:57 |
| kanzure | yes, according to http://www.seanwrona.com/typeracer/profile.php?username=kanzure i type 20-30 wpm faster on adderall | 17:58 |
| ParahSail1n | i can't take the physical strain of adderall unfortunately | 17:59 |
| brownies | kanzure: eh? | 17:59 |
| cathalgarvey | @ParaSail1n You need to take the ephemeral form, then? :) | 18:00 |
| ParahSail1n | yeah the stuff i got was the XR, i'd be cool if it lasted for 2-4 hours then able to sit down and have an appetite | 18:01 |
| ParahSail1n | it was XR, but i chewed the granules, but that didnt really help at being more ephemeral | 18:02 |
| kanzure | i am on 30mg XR for 8 hours, then 20mg tablet non-XR for whatever else i need | 18:02 |
| heath | anyone up for clicking so fast you have to get a robotic finger replacement? http://click-click-click.meteor.com | 18:07 |
| ParahSail1n | heath i will win every time | 18:10 |
| heath | it's on then | 18:10 |
| heath | awww :) | 18:10 |
| heath | heh, i didn't take into account more than 2 people looking at the screen at the same time :) | 18:11 |
| heath | ..and clicking | 18:11 |
| ParahSail1n | javascript:for(var i=0; i<50; i++)$(".Left").click() | 18:11 |
| cathalgarvey | hax | 18:12 |
| * heath ragequits | 18:12 | |
| yashgaroth | go team left | 18:13 |
| cathalgarvey | It broke my heart a little to use a C program as a backend, but I have finally got PySplicer set up to avoid secondary structure in mRNA output | 18:14 |
| cathalgarvey | I can finally, therefore, order the goddamned gene I've been working on for weeks and go to bed | 18:15 |
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| cathalgarvey | Any last minute advice for shit-to-avoid-in-final-constructs? | 18:15 |
| cathalgarvey | I've got RNAse E, will throw in biobrick enzymes etc.. what else to exclude? | 18:15 |
| kanzure | heath: an xhr per click seems super inefficient. have you considered websockets? like socket.io or some shit. | 18:16 |
| kanzure | ParahSail1n: wtf, i was trying that (actually i was using $(".score")[1]) but .click() didn't seem to be working. | 18:17 |
| kanzure | heath: join our pokehack :o http://sanqui.sweb.cz/screen/2013051303%3A04%3A59diyhpl.us-~yenatch-pokecrystal-extras-tilemonster--Chromium-9ce8.png | 18:18 |
| ParahSail1n | kanzure, .Left and .Right work | 18:19 |
| heath | kanzure: that's a great point, re: ws:// | 18:20 |
| heath | i had considered it, but i was mostly told to get familiar with it and have something up in a few hours :P | 18:20 |
| heath | the obvious conclusion from the above being i haven't played with websockets much | 18:22 |
| heath | https://github.com/heath/btc_ticker uses them | 18:23 |
| * heath will throw in ws:// per request | 18:23 | |
| kanzure | obviously you should be using dnode | 18:24 |
| kanzure | over webrtc | 18:24 |
| kanzure | with uh... um.. blast what the hell library is hip these days. | 18:24 |
| kanzure | angular. | 18:25 |
| heath | hah | 18:26 |
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| ParahSail1n | paperbot, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjce.5450690317/abstract | 19:01 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a06dadafd3ae391a6c2b49761edc562a.txt | 19:01 |
| ParahSail1n | paperbot, http://heattransfer.asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/article.aspx?articleid=1450403 | 19:03 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Water-Heated%20Pool%20Boiling%20of%20Different%20Refrigerants%20on%20the%20Outside%20Surface%20of%20a%20Horizontal%20Smooth%20Tube.pdf | 19:03 |
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| cathalgarvey | Order placed, wish me luck! | 19:11 |
| cathalgarvey | Now to have food and sleep, those other requirements for effective biohacking | 19:11 |
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| heath | speaking of whatever the hell library is hip these days.. | 19:37 |
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| * heath has accepted commits in webrtc on ietf and in angular | 19:37 | |
| heath | apparently to get something pushed on a major project, you just need to correct grammar regularly | 19:38 |
| kanzure | i'm afraid that most of my commits are typo fixes | 19:42 |
| kanzure | it seems really lame | 19:42 |
| kanzure | most of my contributions to yeoman were typofixes, for example | 19:42 |
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| kanzure | gene_hacker: sup | 19:42 |
| gene_hacker | writing an IK solver and other fun stuff | 19:43 |
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| kanzure | .title http://bamh1.com/2013/05/13/oh-the-places-well-go-setting-up-a-biohacking-space/ | 23:25 |
| yoleaux | Oh the places we’ll go… setting up a Biohacking space! | 23:25 |
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