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| archels_ | https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/01/sexbot-ethics/ | 02:21 |
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| esmerelda | Wait, is this sexbot consenting? | 02:23 |
| * archels_ flips a few bits in its RAM | 02:24 | |
| archels_ | yes. | 02:24 |
| esmerelda | #define CONSENT 1 | 02:33 |
| esmerelda | Hrm. That's an interesting philosophical setup | 02:34 |
| vicarion | oh dear | 02:39 |
| vicarion | "I need someone to come fuck my robot and let me watch. I can't fuck it because I'm like it's dad." <-- should be "its" not "it's" | 02:41 |
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| FourFire | > and i also refuse to be typecasted as fields or lines or whatever, that's insane and useless; i'll do whatever i need to do, why should i care what field it happens to be? | 08:28 |
| * FourFire wishes they had 50% of kanzure's brain | 08:28 | |
| @kanzure | most of the mass is dedicated to pokemon and memorizing urls, careful what you wish for | 08:40 |
| FourFire | kanzure, in http://gnusha.org/logs/2012-12-15.log at 22:40 you say "you should try to avoid that dude" | 09:02 |
| FourFire | What exactly did you mean, because I certainly have a single uniform voice which narrates all text which enters or leaves my brain, and sometimes the voice leaks into my phonological loop while I'm distracted and I narrate my own thoughts to myself | 09:03 |
| FourFire | Wait, you mean it's been slowing me down? | 09:04 |
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| cluckj | yeesh are people listening to themselves again | 09:07 |
| cluckj | it's a friggin epidemic | 09:07 |
| FourFire | Yeah, referring to that log, I'm sorry for yet being helpful, I also know that doesn't help: have ordered a mental health assessment and will get meds for whatever turns up | 09:09 |
| FourFire | at worst I'll get a fellow ADHDer who has access to... stuff to share with me. | 09:10 |
| FourFire | trying to learn docker now for gromacs, it's going slowly. | 09:10 |
| cluckj | meth isn't good for you | 09:10 |
| @kanzure | don't listen to cluckj, brain slugs are awesome | 09:16 |
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| cluckj | kanzure I see that the super cool hat that I sent you arrived | 10:07 |
| fenn | is it an archbishop hat? | 10:08 |
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| cluckj | no just a small green one | 10:17 |
| maaku | fenn: the 'guaranteed reward' definately is not adversarially secure | 10:22 |
| maaku | but it's an open question how adversarial a model is appropriate | 10:23 |
| maaku | perhaps it would be better to have something non-monetary as reward, merit points or something (which are used for other purposes in the system) | 10:23 |
| fenn | to me the entire idea is monetary rewards for peer review | 10:24 |
| maaku | the idea is rewards for peer review | 10:24 |
| maaku | doesn't _have_ to be monetary | 10:24 |
| fenn | well currently there's no reward at all | 10:24 |
| fenn | so technically yes, it doesn't _have_ to be anything | 10:25 |
| maaku | if you make it something that only non-trolls, non-griefers value, all the better | 10:25 |
| cluckj | ^ | 10:25 |
| cluckj | credits for others to peer review your work | 10:25 |
| cluckj | that's kind of how the current system works, but without documentation or commodification of credit | 10:26 |
| cluckj | (it's a gift economy) | 10:26 |
| fenn | lol | 10:26 |
| fenn | it's an obligation economy | 10:27 |
| cluckj | I guess? | 10:28 |
| cluckj | there's always the potential for toxicity in gift economies...which is pretty apparent in the current peer review scheme | 10:29 |
| cluckj | publishing companies exploit free labor that academics/scientists provide | 10:30 |
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| @kanzure | my proposal for fixing science is let's ressurect john von neumann and make him lead the damn thing | 10:40 |
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| pasky | sounds good | 11:29 |
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| FourFire | kanzure, do we have his DNA? | 12:13 |
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| @kanzure | FourFire: ehh i'm sure we could find a grave from either himself or an ancestor. | 13:14 |
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| FourFire | most preferrably him | 13:14 |
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| FourFire | wow discovering very old things | 14:02 |
| FourFire | > If you say Eliezer Yudkowsky's name 3 times out loud, it prevents anything magical from happening. | 14:02 |
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