2016-05-31.log

--- Log opened Tue May 31 00:00:16 2016
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adlai_this is a good channel. these are good people, except for the robots, who are probably quite excellent themselves01:15
* adlai_ transmits live from a "phunny pharm", in his rationed minutes... or do they ration by packet?01:15
adlai_at least they let me have metallica01:16
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kanzurenot 4000 wells, more like 1 million wells03:27
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kanzure"Even OpenWorm [1] isn't working yet." what's broken about it?04:56
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archels_http://i.imgur.com/A0sPrUh.jpg06:13
archels_I don't know where to even begin captioning this06:13
archels_kanzure: the worm isn't doing enough wormlike things yet06:13
kanzurewhat is it doing then?06:13
kanzure.wa planck pressure06:17
yoleauxkanzure: Sorry, no result!06:17
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archels_I think they have some CFM things that are working07:06
archels_er computational fluid dynamics07:06
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nmz787_isup09:24
kanzuremanually shifting tectonic plates09:30
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nmz787_ikanzure: my response to that: http://25.media.tumblr.com/bd46e8476f656d1e3103a5ac4d2f2b98/tumblr_mkz7agSe4i1r79nqko3_250.gif10:15
kanzurenmz787_i: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRh-37H4fA10:15
nmz787_i.tell yashgaroth you could have an identical set of wells below the wells you're talking about, with gel sandwiched between, vertically... then electrophoresis from the top well down to the bottom10:17
yoleauxnmz787_i: I'll pass your message to yashgaroth.10:17
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mahydraalhello10:24
mahydraalis anyone in here?10:24
Urchinyes10:25
nmz787_idefinitely10:25
nmz787_imahydraal: what is it you seeketh?10:26
mahydraali have come seeking guidance10:31
mahydraaland information10:31
mahydraaland delicious phyles10:31
nmz787_ihttp://diyhpl.us/wiki/10:32
nmz787_ihttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/10:32
nmz787_ihttp://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/10:33
nmz787_ihave fun with this one: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/M&M%202015/Index.html10:33
mahydraalthank you oh wise irc wizards10:34
mahydraalalso, I am invested in WBE and computaational neuroscience10:34
mahydraalam i in the right plaace?10:35
nmz787_iWhole Brain Emulation?10:35
nmz787_iif I am correct, then yes, this is a good place10:35
mahydraalexcellent10:37
mahydraalaais there a reason we seem to be alone?10:37
c0rw1ntimzeones10:38
c0rw1n*timezones10:38
mahydraalahhhh10:40
mahydraalwhat aare the active hours?10:40
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c0rw1nsporadic10:41
kanzureif you want to ask a question, then just ask it.10:41
kanzurewe don't do "roll call" around these parts10:41
mahydraaloh alright10:46
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mahydraalso what is everyone up too?11:11
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kanzurehttp://cancerx.mit.edu/research/11:20
maakumahydraal: you will find people working here on everything from DNA printing to automated manufacturing to AGI11:23
mahydraalexcellent11:25
mahydraalthis is fantastic11:25
kanzuremahydraal: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap mentions at least a few things that people are up to11:25
mahydraalare you guys actually modifying your own genetics?11:25
mahydraalhow are you doing that?11:25
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications/11:26
mahydraali see all these mods11:27
mahydraalbut how do i install?11:27
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mahydraallol11:33
nmz787_imahydraal: still working on the 'compiler' so to speak, myself at least and a few  others11:52
mahydraalmay i help in some way?11:53
mahydraalis it a CRISPR derivative?11:53
nmz787_iI personally work on micro and nano fabrication techniques, materials science and lab instrumentation/electronics11:54
nmz787_iidea is to downscale synthetic chemistry or enzyme-based assembly techniques11:54
nmz787_iCRISPR isn't on my radar, but mostly because it is pretty high-level (I am focusing on getting DNA from nucleotides)11:55
mahydraaloh11:55
mahydraalso I cant help out with what you are up to?11:56
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maaku.title https://qntm.org/destroy14:37
yoleauxHow to destroy the Earth @ Things Of Interest14:37
maakui was happy to find truth in advertising here14:38
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kanzurephantomcircuit is wondering what the purpose of sleep really is,15:47
kanzureso in the spirit of that question, please propose terribly unethical human experiments15:48
kanzureiirc we did not make much progress in sleep deprivation experiments15:48
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jcorganpolyphasic sleep ftw :)15:55
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mahydraalhello16:06
kanzurepolyphasic sleep is insufficiently unethical16:14
mahydraalwhat16:15
mahydraal?16:15
mahydraalwat m8?16:15
kanzuremahydraal: you can use the logs to read messages you may have missed http://gnusha.org/logs/2016-05-31.log16:16
mahydraali se16:17
mahydraali see16:17
mahydraalwhat handy logs16:17
jrayhawkkanzure: is it okay if i gzip /home/bryan/public_html/papers2/bitcoin/bitcoin.it-wiki/dump_20140308_en.xml16:19
kanzureyes16:23
kanzure"Buying cures versus renting health: Financing health care with consumer loans" http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/scitransmed/8/327/327ps6.full.pdf16:23
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maakukanzure the obvious one is to induce sudden chemical death in test subjects that have undergone a variety of durations of sleep deprivation16:45
maakuAnd do neural autopsies.16:45
maakuCertainly this has been done on mice already?16:47
kanzureyeah i'm not entirely convinced that neuroscience people have been doing lots of anatomy studies.... i keep looking but i keep getting disappointed.16:48
kanzurei get the sense that lots of neuroanatomy happened between 1940-1970 and not lately16:48
kanzurebut right, yes, it seems like the way to do it would be to go spelunking for antibody labeling or even aptamer labeling to find interesting/curious things16:49
kanzureyou could probably get a total inventory of fluorophore-labeled proteins-of-interest.... or upregulated mRNA transcript stuff.. giant hybridization arrays i guess would be a nice start re: sleep.16:50
kanzuresearch results for "comparative neuroanatomy" are always super disappointing. what's so hard about "take a thousand brains from a hundred different animals and relentlessly diff them"?16:55
maakuIn this particular experiment it is hard to avoid correlations that don't matter. For example whatever mechanism is used for sleep deprivation probably induced stress, and how do you tell the stress biomarkers from the sleep deprivation?17:00
maakuWell okay I guess that one is easy. Do the same thing with stressed mice.17:01
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kanzure"For example, rates for a 4,400 teu gearless panamax ship of $5,400 per day, are a staggering 63% below the market rates of a year ago, and in many cases are below the daily operating cost."17:28
kanzureaka "you can rent a Panamax cargo ship for $5,400 a day"17:28
kanzurehttp://www.ship.gr/news6/diana_c27a.jpg17:29
Jawmareon a fucking boat m817:29
Jawmareimagine having a party on a panamax ship17:30
kanzureroaming paint ball attraction17:30
Jawmarealso a good idea17:31
Jawmarereal life CS17:31
kanzuregoogle.com/search?q=is+it+safe+to+jump+off+the+side+of+a+ ... wait a second. probably no.17:32
JawmareCargo ship operator should come up with better ideas :D17:33
Jawmarefloating prison is another good idea in America17:34
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c0rw1nfloating genehacking clinic17:36
c0rw1nyou know you want to17:36
kanzurehttp://www.nap.edu/catalog/12071/assessment-of-the-nasa-astrobiology-institute#toc17:46
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kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1181075418:02
superkuhWhat's the latest sci-hub URL?18:02
yoleauxShip scrapping accelerates ahead of Panama Canal launch | Hacker News18:02
superkuhI've tried sci-hub.io with 6 different IP and I'm not getting there.18:02
justanotherusersuperkuh: hilight me if/when you find it18:02
superkuh.cc18:03
superkuhWorks.18:03
nmz787_ii think i used .la yesterday18:03
superkuh.ac too18:03
nmz787_iah, one I didn't try yesterday18:04
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kanzureprobably have to switch to tor at some point18:13
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superkuhTook me about 4 seconds runtime on ~2009 GPU to brute a scihub**********etc.onion.18:29
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jcorgani did some research on a container ship a few years ago, rather interesting18:38
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jcorganhttp://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=166735718:42
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kanzurehttps://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch/pull/619:32
kanzurehmm.19:32
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kanzureare .onions the only part that can be publicly distributed, or is the full key also distributable?19:45
superkuhscallion just gives you the .onion and the private key. An example: http://superkuh.com/scihubcrap.txt19:53
kanzurethe .onion is a hash of a public key, right?19:57
kanzurehm i guess it can't be a hash19:57
kanzure.title https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2015-October/009762.html19:59
yoleaux[tor-dev] Status of Open Hidden Service Proposals (October 2015)19:59
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