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| JayDugger1 | Good morning, everyone. | 02:10 |
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| JayDugger1 | What story lies behind the channel change from "#hplusroadmap" to "##hplusroadmap"? | 02:10 |
| Utopiah | being able to register it | 02:10 |
| JayDugger1 | Oh? | 02:29 |
| JayDugger1 | That's not very dramatic. | 02:29 |
| JayDugger1 | How very unexciting. | 02:29 |
| JayDugger1 | Thank you for letting me know. | 02:29 |
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| Utopiah | ideas to use personal logs a bit more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_sociology | 03:50 |
| uniqanomaly_ | i wonder why kanzure needs 4 clones, logs redundancy? lol | 03:52 |
| kanzure | it's so i can attack jrayhawk when he isn't looking | 04:13 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 06:23 |
| kanzure | http://i.materialise.com/blog/entry/2010-the-year-in-3d-printing | 06:26 |
| kanzure | hmm that's not very comprehensive | 06:28 |
| JayDugger | Nope. | 06:31 |
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| JayDugger | What would you add to that list, "2010 in 3d printing?" | 07:03 |
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| delinquentme | GOOD morningggg! | 07:46 |
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| kanzure | i'll be making an appearance later this evening on the hackerspaces.org radio show, "signal" | 08:55 |
| kanzure | http://signal.hackerspaces.org/ | 08:55 |
| delinquentme | oooooo | 09:05 |
| delinquentme | sounds fancy | 09:05 |
| delinquentme | online broadcast? | 09:05 |
| kanzure | yes | 09:23 |
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| archels | kanzure: ETA? | 09:34 |
| kanzure | 3h 30min i think. i'm not really sure :) | 09:34 |
| archels | /dev/random eh | 09:35 |
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| kanzure | JayDugger: all of the reprap stuff going on | 10:25 |
| archels | kanzure: Can you give a heads up when your segment begins? | 10:29 |
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| kanzure | sure. | 10:58 |
| kanzure | ogg stream: http://signal.hackerspaces.org:8090/signal.ogg.m3u | 11:02 |
| kanzure | mp3 stream: http://signal.hackerspaces.org:8090/signal.mp3.m3u | 11:02 |
| kanzure | redefining food and human digestion http://www.good.is/post/future-foragers-dunne-raby-redesign-human-digestion-to-redefine-food/ | 11:06 |
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| kanzure | martine rothblatt invented sirius satellite radio? | 11:45 |
| kanzure | what? | 11:45 |
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| archels | kanzure: T-40min? | 12:22 |
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| kanzure | archels: i don't claim to understand time zones | 12:24 |
| archels | well, 40 minutes from *now*, wherever you are. ;) | 12:25 |
| kanzure | their show is 22 to 00 CET, so i guess that's 15 to 17 CST | 12:28 |
| kanzure | so i guess it depends on when they decide they need my charming voice | 12:29 |
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| archels | Ah okay. Yeah, there are far too many timezones. That should place the show at 25 minutes from now. | 12:35 |
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| kanzure | "Emma Tillman (114, siblings lived to 108, 105, 103, 102)" | 12:40 |
| kanzure | hm | 12:40 |
| uniqanomaly_ | came to my mind lately, anyone have any thoughts/know about research on possible relation of contraception on longevity? | 12:50 |
| archels | uniqanomaly_: Never did look into that, did cross my mind at some point though. :) | 12:50 |
| kanzure | michael rose and greg fahy have a lot of lectures out there on the web that explore that | 12:53 |
| uniqanomaly_ | http://www.medindia.net/news/Contraceptive-Pill-Boosts-Longevity-in-Women-Study-66293-1.htm | 12:53 |
| uniqanomaly_ | something here | 12:53 |
| kanzure | lookup greg fahy's work on google scholar or something, i'm sure he's written extensively | 12:53 |
| augur | kanzure: have a large magellanic cloud | 12:54 |
| augur | http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/files/50133/LMC.jpg | 12:54 |
| augur | :T | 12:54 |
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| kanzure | max more is looking for a publisher for hsi anthology of transhumanist essays | 12:56 |
| kanzure | *his | 12:56 |
| kanzure | i suggested self-publishing or Humanity+ Press but he doesn't seem too thrilled about either of those | 12:56 |
| -!- YeshuaLord is now known as augur | 12:56 | |
| kanzure | kinda embarrassing not to use humanity+ press (i guess they don't think it's a serious publisher?) | 12:56 |
| augur | kanzure: fine, dont enjoy your LMC | 12:57 |
| augur | :| | 12:57 |
| uniqanomaly_ | i bet we could achieve notably life extension by synergetic usage of like 5-20 different molecules | 12:57 |
| uniqanomaly_ | this, that, something else | 12:58 |
| uniqanomaly_ | and whole system is overclocked | 12:58 |
| uniqanomaly_ | and you get 200 years in good health | 12:58 |
| archels | Don't you think someone would have come across the magic combination already and lived in good health up to 150 or so? | 12:58 |
| uniqanomaly_ | ;) | 12:59 |
| archels | We've all seen the film clip from the old lady's 122th birthday... oldest known in the modern world. | 13:00 |
| uniqanomaly_ | yeah | 13:00 |
| kanzure | archels: no, 22 molecules out of a few trillion possible molecules? that's quite a huge search space ;) | 13:01 |
| kanzure | plus we can't really rapidly tell whether or not it's working | 13:01 |
| archels | kanzure: Sure, but it's not like the probability is evenly distributed among those few trillion. | 13:01 |
| archels | haha great music | 13:02 |
| archels | They used Skype for a live interview? nice | 13:04 |
| uniqanomaly_ | it's 2010, isn't it? | 13:04 |
| uniqanomaly_ | ;) | 13:04 |
| kanzure | i can't listen to the stream | 13:05 |
| kanzure | this is hilarious. oh well | 13:05 |
| kanzure | access_mms access error: cannot connect to signal.hackerspaces.org:8090 | 13:05 |
| kanzure | No stream found to handle url http://signal.hackerspaces.org:8090/signal.mp3.m3u | 13:05 |
| uniqanomaly_ | vlc works great | 13:05 |
| archels | Well, the people being interviewed seem to be laughing a lot. | 13:05 |
| augur | kanzure: dutchies onnaradio? | 13:14 |
| archels | hehe | 13:15 |
| augur | no seriously, was one of the hosts there dutch? | 13:15 |
| kanzure | yeah i think so | 13:16 |
| augur | damn im good with accents :D | 13:16 |
| augur | you know how you can tell? | 13:16 |
| augur | s -> sh | 13:16 |
| augur | but not in a sean connery sense lol | 13:16 |
| archels | I think I heard two Dutch guys | 13:17 |
| archels | make that three | 13:17 |
| kanzure | i still can't connect (i think i screwed up port 8090 on my laptop and iptables/route isn't showing what) | 13:20 |
| archels | Did anyone catch those domain names? | 13:24 |
| kanzure | no, i'm still not connected | 13:33 |
| kanzure | you'll have to fill me in on what they are talking about | 13:34 |
| archels | I suspect that there'll be a podcast eventually. | 13:35 |
| kanzure | well yes but if i'm interviewed and don't know what they're talking about then that kinda sucks :) | 13:37 |
| archels | Oh, yours is live too? | 13:39 |
| archels | They're goint to phone you? | 13:39 |
| kanzure | yeah | 13:47 |
| kanzure | there we go | 13:49 |
| archels | HI BRYAN | 13:51 |
| kanzure | hmm | 13:56 |
| archels | `halp I'm surrounded by Dutchies' | 13:57 |
| archels | no endocrinology/diet stuff? | 13:58 |
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| archels | the lady pronounces diybio in a nice way, with the emphasis on the first i | 14:08 |
| @jrayhawk | haha @ "SEMs can SEE ATOMS, MAN" | 14:09 |
| kanzure | it's so whacky! | 14:13 |
| kanzure | that wasn't what i thought it would be | 14:13 |
| kanzure | i didn't get to rant enough :P | 14:13 |
| kanzure | haha now the stream works | 14:14 |
| kanzure | screw this | 14:14 |
| archels | kudos, kanzure ;) | 14:21 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | omg | 14:25 |
| kanzure | archels: thanks | 14:26 |
| uniqanomaly_ | most media are for retards by retards | 14:26 |
| uniqanomaly_ | how simple is that | 14:26 |
| kanzure | maybe i should have been more aggressive | 14:26 |
| kanzure | and got another 10min of talk time :) | 14:26 |
| jrayhawk | well i am sure they're willing to have you on again some other time | 14:26 |
| jrayhawk | but they also seem to be willing to cut you off wherever they feel like it | 14:26 |
| archels | A group discussion is nice, but they had quite a lot of people, so it was a bit harder to follow and each person got less time to talk. | 14:28 |
| kanzure | it was a little less technical than i was hoping.. this is the hackerspaces.org station, c'mon | 14:29 |
| kanzure | "fast forward radio" is similar but each person gets to speak longer | 14:33 |
| kanzure | oh man bitchin' 8bit | 14:35 |
| archels | They seem to like it. :P | 14:35 |
| kanzure | i should have complained about my tracert problems | 14:38 |
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| Utopiah | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4099.en.html | 14:47 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/saigon-hackspace | 14:48 |
| Utopiah | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4003.en.html | 14:57 |
| kanzure | do you think i could run a better radio program? All kanzure all the time | 14:57 |
| kanzure | it'd be awesome. | 14:57 |
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| g4k | what's hplus mean | 15:13 |
| kanzure | hi g4k | 15:13 |
| kanzure | hplus stands for transhumanism | 15:13 |
| g4k | and why are there 5 kanzure's? | 15:13 |
| kanzure | it's so i can go to war with @jrayhawk | 15:13 |
| g4k | transhumanism, isn't that just the antiquated 90's term used to replace the overpopularized and idealized 'cyberpunk'? | 15:14 |
| kanzure | no | 15:14 |
| kanzure | transhumanism means 'human enhancement' | 15:14 |
| g4k | er | 15:14 |
| g4k | cybernetics | 15:14 |
| kanzure | whatever. the point is, some of us want to edit our genomes, fuck up our bodies with lentiviruses, | 15:14 |
| kanzure | and some of us just want to make glow-in-the-dark yogurt | 15:15 |
| g4k | oh | 15:15 |
| g4k | well jesus | 15:15 |
| g4k | im in for the glow in the dark yogurt | 15:15 |
| kanzure | hell yeah! | 15:15 |
| g4k | but the editing genomes thing without proper humanist oversight seems a little audacious | 15:15 |
| kanzure | who said without proper oversight? | 15:16 |
| kanzure | are you a troll | 15:16 |
| g4k | i've been reading up on how to build flow cytometers | 15:16 |
| kanzure | cool | 15:16 |
| g4k | i got the 'pracical flow cytometry' book by shapiro | 15:16 |
| kanzure | tell us tell us :) | 15:16 |
| g4k | it's a good book. if you can find it at a 2nd hand book store, buy it. | 15:16 |
| g4k | it's like the old forest mimms books, everything is hand-drawn | 15:16 |
| g4k | have you heard of flow cytometry yet? | 15:18 |
| kanzure | yes | 15:18 |
| g4k | apparently Nathan McCorkle has made one | 15:19 |
| g4k | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/2c700a8f7f595479/8f09e60d09f1a044?lnk=gst&q=cytometer#8f09e60d09f1a044 | 15:19 |
| kanzure___ | no nathan has not | 15:19 |
| g4k | haven't started construction yet, still getting through the book, but I think I have a crew of bio-curious individuals | 15:19 |
| g4k | oh, that was a copy/paste from an article | 15:19 |
| kanzure | good | 15:20 |
| g4k | sweet. i could still be the ~first | 15:20 |
| kanzure | well, i'm going to pester you to make it all open source hardware | 15:20 |
| kanzure | and liberally licensed and using good CAD standards and shit :) | 15:20 |
| kanzure | so prepare to be pestered! | 15:20 |
| g4k | thatd be neat | 15:20 |
| g4k | we are anticipating a 40w laser cutter next month | 15:20 |
| g4k | hopefully that'll help | 15:20 |
| kanzure | also i have some money for this sort of stuff if you ever have a specific BOM and need for cash.. | 15:20 |
| g4k | lol that's alright | 15:20 |
| kanzure | yeah laser cutters are fun.. i should convert mine to emc2 :( | 15:21 |
| kanzure | because presently the software sucks | 15:21 |
| g4k | Shapiro makes a big point that you don't need expensive hardware to make a flow cytometer (or flow cytophotometer, or flow flourometer, or flow flourophotometer) | 15:21 |
| kanzure | nah, of course not | 15:21 |
| g4k | do you understand the mechanics of flow cytometers? | 15:21 |
| kanzure | but some people in this community struggle to get $1k to $5k | 15:22 |
| g4k | because I think at this point that's all I ahve to offer :p | 15:22 |
| g4k | oh man, $1000 would be great :) | 15:22 |
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| kanzure | i know the general basis of flow cytometry and passing material by a sampler or optical piece, yeah | 15:22 |
| kanzure | but if you want to rant about it, please go ahead | 15:22 |
| g4k | alright, sweet :) | 15:23 |
| kanzure | maybe describe your particular implementation :) | 15:23 |
| g4k | the coolest part i've learned so far about flow cytometry is how it utilizes laminar flow to separate the stream into individual cells | 15:23 |
| g4k | oh, i don't have an implementation yet | 15:23 |
| kanzure | no plans/concepts? | 15:23 |
| g4k | i just started the book, a few chapters in | 15:23 |
| g4k | i have the drawings he made | 15:23 |
| g4k | I don't know what sorts of available materials are 50um in diameter | 15:24 |
| kanzure | cells; polystyrene beads | 15:24 |
| g4k | lol, i meant tubes | 15:24 |
| g4k | so, like Nathan's post mentions, there is a sample stream and a 'sheath' stream | 15:25 |
| g4k | the 'sheath' is a laminar flow of some inactive liquid, probably saline | 15:25 |
| g4k | the laminarity is very important | 15:25 |
| g4k | when you inject your sample through the hypodermic needle (it doesnt go into skin or anything, it's just really small at the end and easily available, which is why we'd use it) | 15:25 |
| g4k | the sheath fluid flows around it | 15:26 |
| g4k | so you wind up having this water popsicle with a biological gooey center | 15:26 |
| g4k | but the center is dozens of cells wide | 15:26 |
| g4k | you gradually decrease the diameter of the tube leading up to the inspection point | 15:27 |
| g4k | er, observation point | 15:27 |
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| g4k | and, because the sheath flow is laminar and doesnt have any currents inside it to push the cells around, it naturally forces the cells into single file | 15:27 |
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| g4k | to the diameter of the tube at your observation point | 15:27 |
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| g4k | the _coolest_ part, imo, is after that | 15:28 |
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| g4k | and shapiro goes over the gritty mathematics about how the timing sequences go, in the manner of microseconds, where the discharge time of capacitors is actually vitally important | 15:28 |
| g4k | the cells, in their sheath fluid, drip out in individual-cell droplets | 15:29 |
| g4k | the droplets are charged by electric plates, controlled by the information gathered by the electronics at the observation point | 15:29 |
| g4k | and two more plates divert the single-cell-droplets into their respective tubes | 15:30 |
| g4k | and then you get one tube Cancer Cells, one test tube Normal Cells | 15:30 |
| @kanzure | do you have to use different equipment for differently diametered objects? | 15:30 |
| g4k | yes | 15:30 |
| @kanzure | single cell droplets is a really neat idea | 15:31 |
| @kanzure | actually i'm more familiar with single-droplet manipulation via microfluidics | 15:31 |
| g4k | and you need to make sure, somehow, that all of the cells and particles in your sample are smaller than the diamter of the tube | 15:31 |
| @kanzure | http://bio.cc/Bioinformics/papers/microfluidics/ :D | 15:31 |
| g4k | or it will get 'clogged' | 15:31 |
| @kanzure | dbolser: why is bio.cc down? | 15:31 |
| g4k | i see the google cache of it | 15:32 |
| g4k | really, i only got into flow cytometry because i wanted to know what practical uses there were for laminar flow fluids | 15:32 |
| g4k | but its great to see a community :) | 15:32 |
| @kanzure | oh there's tons :) | 15:32 |
| @kanzure | laminar flows are ridiculously useful | 15:32 |
| g4k | its a party trick recently | 15:33 |
| g4k | i heard it first on hackaday | 15:33 |
| @kanzure | huh? what was the hackaday post? | 15:33 |
| g4k | it was just about laminar flow using sponges and straws, not bio | 15:34 |
| g4k | http://hackaday.com/2010/08/22/laminar-water-jet-explained/ | 15:35 |
| joshcryer | Some of us just want to life until entropy takes over. Or beyond that if possible. | 15:38 |
| joshcryer | s/life/live | 15:38 |
| g4k | lol | 15:39 |
| joshcryer | But I think glow in the dark yogurt is a noble goal. | 15:39 |
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| g4k | i always thought that entropy thing was scientists huffing mad that they didnt figure out why the universe is so complex yet | 15:39 |
| @kanzure | it means different things in different contexts :P | 15:40 |
| @kanzure | it has a very particular definition in statistical thermodynamics | 15:41 |
| joshcryer | Eh, if you assume the universe behaves as thermodynamics dictates, then you must assume that it applies everywhere. | 15:41 |
| g4k | joshcryer: i hope, but i can't assume | 15:41 |
| joshcryer | g4k, it'd be nice if somewhere in the universe it didn't apply, or possibly, if somewhere we were able to make it not apply. | 15:42 |
| g4k | lol. is it always so heavy in here? | 15:43 |
| joshcryer | I think if some varient of me makes it until the local cluster coalesces then I did good. :) | 15:43 |
| joshcryer | Oh, sorry, didn't mean to be 'heavy' I did mention yogurt... | 15:44 |
| @kanzure | g4k: nah, sometimes we talk about other stuff.. like longevity/life extension | 15:45 |
| @kanzure | http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-12-11.log | 15:45 |
| joshcryer | Meh, that's for old geezers to worry about. ;) | 15:45 |
| @kanzure | Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone (GHRH) Antagonist Extends Life of Mice http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/12/02/1016369107.abstract | 15:57 |
| * kanzure will get the pdf later | 15:57 | |
| delinquentme | WOOT! | 16:32 |
| delinquentme | just emailed william theis and vashnavi ananth ! | 16:32 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you know about biocoder? | 16:32 |
| @kanzure | yes | 16:33 |
| @kanzure | what did you email them with | 16:33 |
| @kanzure | http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/india/projects/biocoder/ | 16:33 |
| @kanzure | their language really sucks | 16:34 |
| @kanzure | their example: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/india/projects/biocoder/tutorial/section4.html | 16:34 |
| @kanzure | it's not even object oriented | 16:34 |
| @kanzure | well, it's partially object oriented | 16:34 |
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| QuantumG | "water electrolysis also acts as a carbon sink and generates energy." - factor, the stupidest person I know. | 17:34 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, ummm i havnt used it TBH | 17:58 |
| delinquentme | Hmmm so im sitting here musing over the thought of my chick going out and getting drunk .. im glad i care less but really it makes me want one thing: WHERE would I need to live if i wanted to surround myself with bio hackers who do this as their lifes PASSION .. like 24/7 they'd go out to the bar for a few hours and at 3 am jump back into the lab and work till they pass out .. there MUST be people like this.... | 18:01 |
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| ferrouswheel | uh, what happened to the original #hplusroadmap - says I need to be invited now? | 18:40 |
| kanzure | another article to fetch: | 18:41 |
| kanzure | Synthetic immunology to engineer human immunity | 18:41 |
| kanzure | http://www.nature.com/nchembio/journal/v6/n12/full/nchembio.477.html | 18:41 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: #hplusroadmap should be redirecting to here now | 18:41 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: this channel is registered/official | 18:41 |
| ferrouswheel | aha gotcha | 18:42 |
| kanzure | related company: "adaptive tcr" http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2010/12/13/adaptive-tcr-seeks-to-dominate-new-industry-in-profiling-the-immune-system/ | 18:46 |
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| kanzure | "how my predictions are faring" another ray kurzweil article | 20:29 |
| kanzure | http://c0068172.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/predictions.pdf | 20:29 |
| kanzure | why the hell are there so many comments here? http://www.hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/enhancement-politics-resistance-domination-not-futile | 20:36 |
| kanzure | in that pdf ray kurzweil sites Telescouter | 20:42 |
| kanzure | http://www.nec.co.jp/solution/telescouter/index.html | 20:42 |
| kanzure | THANK YOU JAPAN. | 20:42 |
| kanzure | but this document is kind of masturbatory.. great you forsaw iphones, now what | 20:47 |
| kanzure | i posted it to HN http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2036575 | 20:49 |
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| kanzure | welcome epitron | 20:57 |
| kanzure | mm lists http://scipy.org/Topical_Software | 21:07 |
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| joshcryer | I forsaw fucking iPhone almost 15 years ago! | 23:12 |
| joshcryer | Stupid Kurzweil | 23:14 |
| joshcryer | "Computer displays built into eyeglasses are also used. These specialized glasses allow users to see the normal visual environment, while creating a virtual image that appears to hover in front of the viewer. The virtual images are created by a tiny laser built into the glasses that projects the images directly onto the user‟s retinas." | 23:14 |
| joshcryer | He was completely wrong on that. | 23:14 |
| joshcryer | There haven't been virtual glasses improvements. | 23:15 |
| joshcryer | And they're still highly niche. | 23:16 |
| joshcryer | Sorry, this is my one main problem with TAoSM. | 23:17 |
| joshcryer | "Interactive games routinely include all-encompassing visual and auditory environments…" | 23:18 |
| joshcryer | And he keeps freaking spinning that point. | 23:18 |
| joshcryer | "With 3D television introduced in 2009, full-immersion 3D environments for games are coming in full force." | 23:18 |
| joshcryer | Nice definition of "full-immersion," Kurzweil. | 23:18 |
| joshcryer | "The online chat rooms of the late 1990s have been replaced with virtual environments where you can meet people with full visual realism." | 23:19 |
| joshcryer | Replaced. Haha. | 23:19 |
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