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| joshcryer | timschmidt, what sort of control over the feed do you have? | 00:49 |
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| joshcryer | (the wire feed) | 00:49 |
| timschmidt | Joshcryer: my super-cheap $99 harbor freight 60/90A welder has a pot which controls feed speed. It could pretty easily be removed, and frobbed with a microcontroller. | 00:51 |
| timschmidt | but IMHO, that's not necessary | 00:51 |
| timschmidt | It's easier to adjust the speed at which the machine prints | 00:52 |
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| timschmidt | https://github.com/timschmidt/stl2pov | 01:19 |
| timschmidt | kanzure: ^ | 01:21 |
| timschmidt | it's terrible, it's ugly, it's horrid, but it produces .pov scripts that render. | 01:25 |
| timschmidt | it's what I had time to do. | 01:25 |
| * timschmidt moves on | 01:25 | |
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| kanzure | jerry finally went and picked up his stuff.. http://jerryarutherford.blogspot.com/2011/01/jerry-and-ebos-most-excellent-adventure.html (it's a video) | 07:37 |
| kanzure | took him three years to bother to pick up his machine shop, which is weird.. | 07:37 |
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| Lukas_ | Good morning | 07:40 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 08:26 |
| Lukas_ | Good morning | 08:27 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/dremelfuge or skdb-get dremelfuge | 08:45 |
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| kanzure | fenn: dremelfuge depends on 'eppie' (an eppendorf microcentrifuge tube) | 08:47 |
| kanzure | cathal is calling it 'eppie' but imho it could just as easily be called "eppendorf-microcentrifuge" | 08:47 |
| kanzure | or even 'microcentrifuge' (but that doesn't describe that it's modeled after the eppendorf tubes) | 08:48 |
| kanzure | downside to saying eppendorf is that it's a company name and might not be a good idea overall.. | 08:48 |
| kanzure | OTOH keeping cathal's naming conventions is probably desirable | 08:48 |
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| kanzure | i'll go with "eppie-microcentrifuge-tube" for now and someone can yell at me later | 08:51 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, ooc .. how many hours of sleep a n ight du get? | 08:56 |
| delinquentme | ehh night! | 08:56 |
| kanzure | six | 08:56 |
| delinquentme | consistently? or do you fluctuate? | 08:56 |
| kanzure | sometimes i let myself sleep in :) that bumps it up to eight or nine | 08:57 |
| delinquentme | haha yeah ive fallen to that too | 09:00 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: piny 'bug' report.. this sort of situation would be preferable to not get into. http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/piny-naming-ughhh | 09:04 |
| JayDugger | If eppendorf's a dependency, I expect to also see kimwipe and kleenex as dependencies. | 09:04 |
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| JayDugger | Huh? | 09:05 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: to use dremelfuge, you need microcentrifuge tubes | 09:05 |
| kanzure | gah | 09:05 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: to use dremelfuge, you need microcentrifuge tubes | 09:05 |
| JayDugger | Why does groupadd create a user for each repository? | 09:05 |
| kanzure | i don't think kleenex does centrifuge tubes | 09:05 |
| JayDugger | Does ikiwiki normally do that? | 09:05 |
| kanzure | yes this is so ikiwiki can compile its contents to html | 09:06 |
| JayDugger | No, but I expect to need kleenex for the launching ceremony of the good ship "Good Riddance to Earth." | 09:06 |
| JayDugger | I plan to weep tears of joy. ;) | 09:06 |
| JayDugger | Every repository gets a user and a group? | 09:06 |
| JayDugger | Okay...shows I've a lot to learn. | 09:07 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: yes.. this is just piny's management system basically | 09:07 |
| kanzure | so this lets me easily do createuser/adduser, then 'addaccess skdb jdugger' to give you push-over-ssh access to the git repo | 09:07 |
| kanzure | which adds you to the git-skdb group | 09:08 |
| JayDugger | I follow so far. | 09:08 |
| kanzure | anyway the "bug" isn't really a bug- there's obviously a maximum length for group names, so if you have a repository with a name that is too long, you're fucked | 09:08 |
| JayDugger | Okay. | 09:09 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk should fix this. :P | 09:09 |
| JayDugger | I follow that part. | 09:09 |
| JayDugger | I still feel surprised that each repository is its own group. | 09:09 |
| JayDugger | That makes some sense, I guess. | 09:09 |
| JayDugger | All contributors to a particular project could belong to that project's group. | 09:09 |
| kanzure | sort of.. in reality you usually just have one or two people for a particular repository | 09:10 |
| JayDugger | Perhaps that's common in mechanical design teams. | 09:10 |
| kanzure | and you pull from your developers. | 09:10 |
| JayDugger | I imagine millions of groups in time...one for every package in skdb. | 09:10 |
| JayDugger | That might be naive on my part. | 09:10 |
| JayDugger | Yeah, few users per group, sensible. | 09:10 |
| kanzure | "ikiwiki-eppie-microcentrifuge-tube" is 34 characters so my guess is group names are limited to 32 characters | 09:14 |
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| Lukas_ | Kanzure | 10:15 |
| Lukas_ | you around? | 10:15 |
| kanzure | yes | 10:16 |
| Lukas_ | I am sure you know about the gene doping scare | 10:17 |
| Lukas_ | I can't find any solid information on it - like what vector they suspect these scientists are using | 10:17 |
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| kanzure | Lukas_: huh? is this something in the news? or in general? | 10:30 |
| Lukas_ | In general | 10:30 |
| kanzure | i don't recall any reported cases of gene doping in sports | 10:30 |
| uniqanomaly_ | Lukas_: what are you expecting? "here's how we conducted gene doping in xxx and won gold medal"? | 10:32 |
| Lukas_ | As I was typing the thought occurred to me | 10:32 |
| Lukas_ | -____- | 10:32 |
| Lukas_ | I am sure they busted someone | 10:33 |
| Lukas_ | gah | 10:33 |
| Lukas_ | never mind | 10:33 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | Lukas_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repoxygen here's something | 10:36 |
| kanzure | here's when we last talked about repoxygen: http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-02-25.log | 10:37 |
| Lukas_ | thanks | 10:37 |
| kanzure | 17:59 < kanzure> "Repoxygen is the tradename for a type of gene therapy that induces controlled release of erythropoietin (EPO) in response to low oxygen concentration. It is has been developed by Oxford Biomedica to treat anaemia. It has been developed in mice, is still in preclinical development and has not been extensively tested in humans." | 10:37 |
| kanzure | 18:00 < kanzure> "The German track and field coach Thomas Springstein and Rashid Ramzi are currently suspected to have used Repoxygen." | 10:38 |
| kanzure | Yoshimi M, Maeyama T, Yamada M, Hamada N, Fukumoto J, Kawaguchi T, Kuwano K, & Nakanishi Y. (2008). Recombinant human erythropoietin reduces epithelial cell apoptosis and attenuates bleomycin-induced pneumonitis in mice. Respirology 13(5). 639-645. | 10:38 |
| kanzure | Percy MJ. (2008). Familial erythrocytosis arising from a gain-of-function mutation in the HIF2A gene of the oxygen sensing pathway. Ulster Medical Journal 77(2). 86-88. | 10:38 |
| kanzure | here's the diybio thread about repoxygen: | 10:39 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/43ac9f00719f3866 | 10:39 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/gene_doping_for_sports_enhancement.png | 10:39 |
| Lukas_ | Excellent | 10:40 |
| Lukas_ | thank you | 10:40 |
| kanzure | Gene doping, a review of performance-enhancing genetics http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/Gene%20doping%20-%20a%20review%20of%20performance-enhancing%20genetics.pdf | 10:41 |
| Lukas_ | sweet | 10:43 |
| Lukas_ | thanks | 10:43 |
| kanzure | braiiins http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/Regulation%20of%20cerebral%20cortical%20size%20by%20control%20of%20cell%20cycle%20exit%20in%20neural%20precursors.pdf.png | 10:49 |
| Lukas_ | XD | 10:49 |
| Lukas_ | 18:16 < QuantumG> so I'd love to have a nice list of techniques that have actually worked... maybe there's a list of people who have been busted? | 10:49 |
| Lukas_ | I agree with QuantumG - this could be an excellent source of income for the movement | 10:51 |
| kanzure | yep. i was estimating my myostatin inhibitor project to be maybe $5k to $10k.. | 10:52 |
| JayDugger | Costs or profits, and what period did you have in mind? | 10:52 |
| JayDugger | And did you budget for legal defense? | 10:52 |
| kanzure | costs | 10:53 |
| JayDugger | per year? | 10:53 |
| kanzure | i don't need legal defense if i do things correctly | 10:53 |
| JayDugger | Oh really? | 10:53 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: total costs for BOM, equipment, materials | 10:53 |
| JayDugger | One time set-up, got it. | 10:53 |
| Lukas_ | and if things work, we could start selling to the body modders :P | 10:54 |
| JayDugger | Seriously--how would you dodge the FDA and AMA with this myostatin inhibitor scheme? | 10:55 |
| kanzure | by doing something that the FDA has no jurisdiction over | 10:55 |
| Lukas_ | Bingo | 10:55 |
| kanzure | or working where the FDA has no jurisdiction. | 10:55 |
| Lukas_ | and I'm working on my Mandarin as a backup plan :D | 10:56 |
| JayDugger | I'll buy the latter. | 10:56 |
| JayDugger | Your Mandarin? | 10:56 |
| Lukas_ | I started learning Mandarin a while back, I've decided to pick it back up as it looks like it will be a useful language | 10:57 |
| Lukas_ | Kanzure, give me a heads up when you start | 10:57 |
| kanzure | i don't have the funding for that right now. | 10:57 |
| Lukas_ | ah | 10:58 |
| JayDugger | Ah. | 10:58 |
| Lukas_ | hopefully sometime in the future you will | 10:59 |
| Lukas_ | I just hope the FDA or AMA doesn't start making noise about it until then | 10:59 |
| kanzure | there were some plans floating around the diybio community to make an ad-hoc distributed citizen science replacement for the FDA | 11:00 |
| kanzure | there's a lot of complicated chemical testing procedures that the FDA documents on its site, | 11:01 |
| kanzure | some of them can be converted to easier/more sensible protocols that could be conducted on a budget, | 11:01 |
| kanzure | especially for the food-testing-related protocols. | 11:01 |
| Lukas_ | really? Interesting | 11:04 |
| Lukas_ | there will no doubt be a strong pushback from the FDA | 11:04 |
| Lukas_ | Is there anything specific that you can link me to? | 11:05 |
| kanzure | why would there be a pushback to third-party testing ?? | 11:05 |
| kanzure | Lukas_: no. it was via some private emails to me and some others | 11:05 |
| Lukas_ | ah | 11:07 |
| Lukas_ | Give me a heads up when something is drafted | 11:07 |
| Lukas_ | unless what we are talking about is solely out of the FDA jurisdiction, they will resist third-party testing | 11:08 |
| Lukas_ | I am unsure of exactly how the law works regarding this | 11:08 |
| kanzure | you're so confusing | 11:09 |
| kanzure | why on earth would the law matter here? | 11:09 |
| kanzure | for all the FDA cares, you could mash your food up with a pointy stick- and some people do. | 11:10 |
| kanzure | so why would they possibly care if you were also doing food testing? | 11:10 |
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| Lukas_ | uhh .... misunderstanding - '<kanzure> especially for the food-testing-related protocols.' I read over that | 11:11 |
| Lukas_ | *uber facepalm* | 11:11 |
| kanzure | k | 11:11 |
| Lukas_ | well, in that case, I see no issues with the idea | 11:13 |
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| kanzure | hi phillyj | 12:05 |
| phillyj | hi | 12:05 |
| phillyj | just checking this out | 12:05 |
| kanzure | lichen: are you still alive/better? | 12:05 |
| lichen | i'm alive | 12:07 |
| lichen | leave for work in 20 minutes | 12:07 |
| kanzure | i do not know this word 'work' | 12:07 |
| Lukas_ | Hello Lichen | 12:09 |
| lichen | hello | 12:09 |
| lichen | watching your vid on biohack.me | 12:09 |
| kanzure | lichen: if you're into videos, there's lots of transhumanist goodness here: http://diyhpl.us:9000/random | 12:11 |
| lichen | ill add it to the list of shit i need to get through | 12:12 |
| Lukas_ | :D | 12:13 |
| Lukas_ | I really don't say much in my videos - it's more of a 'here is what's going on, ok, bye!' | 12:13 |
| lichen | ya | 12:14 |
| lichen | thats fine | 12:14 |
| Lukas_ | I am still new to the youtube thing | 12:16 |
| lichen | ive never put any videos up online | 12:18 |
| lichen | let alone of my face | 12:18 |
| Lukas_ | I am confident I'll never piss someone off enough to use my stupidity against me | 12:19 |
| Lukas_ | :P | 12:19 |
| lichen | lol | 12:19 |
| kanzure | this is lame and boring | 12:19 |
| lichen | ? | 12:20 |
| kanzure | can't we talk about something more exciting than 30sec youtube videos? | 12:20 |
| Lukas_ | -___________________________________________________- | 12:20 |
| Lukas_ | Thanks for the moral support | 12:21 |
| kanzure | for videos? | 12:21 |
| Lukas_ | .. >_> .... <_< ... for | 12:22 |
| Lukas_ | um | 12:22 |
| kanzure | i just don't think video is a good format for conveying information.. just write it down | 12:22 |
| Lukas_ | trying? | 12:22 |
| kanzure | trying what | 12:22 |
| Lukas_ | Kanzure, if you haven't noticed, you're all over the internet, and you've probably written everything down already (slight exaggeration :P) The only community you haven't touched is youtube | 12:23 |
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| kanzure | http://youtube.com/user/kanzure | 12:23 |
| lichen | why are you giving lukas shit for making videos | 12:24 |
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| kanzure | haha what? i'm not giving him shit | 12:24 |
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| Lukas_ | Okay, I was incorrect - you've gotten to youtube | 12:25 |
| kanzure | Lukas_: i thought that was how you met me? | 12:25 |
| Lukas_ | I didn't know that was your channel | 12:25 |
| Lukas_ | I figured someone copied the video from somewhere else | 12:26 |
| Lukas_ | *facepalm* | 12:26 |
| Lukas_ | how many faceplams do you think I can rack up in one day? | 12:26 |
| lichen | at least two standard deviations more than the national average | 12:27 |
| kanzure | i'll rephrase my suggestion: if your goal is to communicate information, i suggest you write it down instead of putting it in videos | 12:28 |
| lichen | each serves a purpose | 12:28 |
| lichen | some things are better conveyed in video | 12:28 |
| lichen | however if youre just talking at the cam | 12:28 |
| lichen | that doesnt really matter so much | 12:28 |
| lichen | anyways i gotta go to work | 12:29 |
| kanzure | seems more like video blogging | 12:29 |
| lichen | yep | 12:29 |
| lichen | bye | 12:29 |
| kanzure | cya | 12:29 |
| Lukas_ | Eventually I plan on actually showing simple experiments - but I can't at the moment, so until I am actually useful to the DIY movement, this is what I'm doing ( your suggestion of writing this down is reasonable) | 12:30 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2011/01/18/what-does-biotech-really-suffer-from-information-overload-or-underload/ | 14:05 |
| kanzure | yeah, subscription costs from $50,000 to $100,000 are common | 14:10 |
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| kanzure | hi gleapsite | 14:15 |
| gleapsite | hi kanzure | 14:16 |
| delinquentme | thats quite a subscription fee! | 14:18 |
| delinquentme | what service is this? | 14:18 |
| kanzure | susbcriptions to academic journals | 14:19 |
| delinquentme | wow. | 14:19 |
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| kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/637230479/a-documentary-film-about-synthetic-biology | 14:53 |
| uniqanomaly_ | sweet | 14:56 |
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| kanzure | via anselm: | 15:16 |
| kanzure | automated microscopy software http://micro-manager.org/ | 15:16 |
| kanzure | 'μManager is a software package for control of automated microscopes. It lets you execute common microscope image acquisition strategies such as time-lapses, multi-channel imaging, z-stacks, and combinations thereof. μManager works with microscopes from all four major manufacturers (Leica, Nikon, Olympus and Zeiss), most scientific-grade cameras and many peripherals (stages, filter wheels, shutters, etc.) used in microscope imaging (check the li | 15:16 |
| kanzure | http://valelab.ucsf.edu/~nico/MMwiki/index.php/Main_Page | 15:16 |
| kanzure | http://valelab.ucsf.edu/~nico/MMwiki/index.php/Linux_installation_from_source_%28Ubuntu%29 | 15:16 |
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| gleapsite | sounds like libgphoto for microscopes. | 15:31 |
| kanzure | pfft real men use libgphoto2 | 15:33 |
| kanzure | :P | 15:33 |
| gleapsite | indeed. | 15:35 |
| gleapsite | and if you don't like that beanscript: https://valelab.ucsf.edu/~nico/MMwiki/index.php/Using_the_Micro-Manager_python_library | 15:39 |
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| kanzure | ru sirius bothered to interview evan malone? http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/robotics/manufacture-it-yourself | 15:45 |
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| kanzure | grr http://www.hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/what%E2%80%99s-best-transhumanist%E2%80%A6-whatever | 15:52 |
| kanzure | don't use stupid unicode in your stupid urls when it's stupid unnecessary | 15:52 |
| kanzure | because one day i'll eventually end up being the one to fix it | 15:56 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, do you restart your testing server when switching between branches? | 17:16 |
| kanzure | which testing server for which project? | 17:16 |
| delinquentme | O_o | 17:17 |
| delinquentme | i just meant in general | 17:17 |
| kanzure | :/ i have a handful of projects and servers at the moment | 17:17 |
| delinquentme | ahh i've been having server weirdness going on .. and i was wondering if me switching branches w the server active is effing w it | 17:17 |
| kanzure | well, i sometimes use a staging server, which can be just a giant linux image | 17:17 |
| kanzure | what does a branch switch for you entail? | 17:18 |
| delinquentme | it prob doesnt HURT to turn the server off and restart when i switch branches | 17:18 |
| kanzure | hah what? | 17:18 |
| delinquentme | git checkout branch | 17:18 |
| kanzure | you want to restart your server after git checkout? | 17:18 |
| delinquentme | git checkout otherbranch | 17:18 |
| kanzure | seems a little over the top | 17:18 |
| delinquentme | id prefer not to | 17:18 |
| delinquentme | but if it makes it run smoother | 17:18 |
| delinquentme | #git doesnt have a answer yet | 17:19 |
| delinquentme | sometimes when im gitfuing i feel like im in the movie inception | 17:20 |
| delinquentme | * O SCHNAP were going DEEPER * | 17:21 |
| delinquentme | then 80 years later the codes fixed | 17:21 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme is this lab equipment related? | 17:54 |
| delinquentme | O_o | 17:54 |
| delinquentme | ? | 17:54 |
| delinquentme | nah this is related to just coding and using git | 17:55 |
| fenn | gaze tracking demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6Ym0tSJyg | 18:24 |
| fenn | delinquentme: the technical term is "yak shaving" | 18:25 |
| delinquentme | fenn ive heard of this | 18:26 |
| delinquentme | its like scandanavian soccer | 18:26 |
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| AlonzoTG1 | Why are you talking abut git in here? | 18:50 |
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| fenn | http://www.tobii.com/en/analysis-and-research/global/products/hardware/tobii-glasses-eye-tracker/ | 18:52 |
| AlonzoTG1 | What a crappy gadget. | 18:54 |
| fenn | video of its output data http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAI54CgP2ag&feature=related | 18:54 |
| AlonzoTG1 | What a crappy gadget. | 18:56 |
| delinquentme | id wear em out on a friday night! | 18:56 |
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| kanzure | sorry but most of the people i met from 3DS turned out to be total assholes or scammers | 19:19 |
| kanzure | blah | 19:19 |
| kanzure | wrong channel | 19:19 |
| ybit | scammers? i hate those guys, but for a low, low price of $100 I can have them out of your life | 19:30 |
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| kanzure | "Did you know that the creator of Duke Nukem Forever, Scott Miller, is an immortalist and involved in the Immortality Institute?" | 19:47 |
| gleapsite | explains the games release date I guess. | 19:49 |
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| lichen | immortalists make me laugh | 19:56 |
| gleapsite | why? | 19:56 |
| kanzure | stop laughing and get back to work http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/longevity/ | 19:57 |
| kanzure | hiyaah *whip* *whip* | 19:57 |
| kanzure | :P | 19:57 |
| lichen | because it completely ignores the fact that a large portion of the earth's population lacks basic necessities like clean drinking water | 19:57 |
| kanzure | that argument has been rebunked a million times over.. | 19:57 |
| kanzure | but what value will i gain by convincing you that you are wrong? | 19:57 |
| gleapsite | for clean drinking water you can build a simple solar purifier with a large bowel, a small bowel and some clear plastic | 19:58 |
| lichen | if you dont want to discuss, then dont start | 19:58 |
| kanzure | sounds like you're the one that doesn't want to? "let's talk about x instead" | 19:58 |
| lichen | my point being that we need to address resources and how to sustain a population with rapidly expanding lifespans | 19:59 |
| lichen | as well as the social impact if there is a divide in the availability of such technology | 19:59 |
| kanzure | oh please.. people who believe in preventing availability of tech are clearly supporters of IPR | 19:59 |
| lichen | ipr? | 20:00 |
| kanzure | "intellectual property rights" | 20:00 |
| lichen | ew | 20:00 |
| lichen | dont make presumptions about me, thanks | 20:00 |
| gleapsite | Lets assume for a minute, that intelligence and experience are resources. Shouldn't we consider the sustainability of those as well? | 20:00 |
| lichen | those aren't finite resources | 20:00 |
| lichen | i'm not against expanding lifespans and living forever | 20:00 |
| lichen | i think it sounds great | 20:00 |
| kanzure | lichen: if you don't believe in IPR then don't say people won't have access to these technologies (like reprap); they clearly *do*; it's written into the license | 20:01 |
| gleapsite | everytime someone dies we lose their knowledge and exp. | 20:01 |
| lichen | did i ever say people should die? | 20:01 |
| gleapsite | so why do you laugh at people trying not to die (ever)? | 20:01 |
| lichen | perhaps that was ill-phrased | 20:02 |
| lichen | let me find the right words- | 20:02 |
| kanzure | no! only pictograms | 20:02 |
| gleapsite | crude .gifs scrawled on the walls of geocities. | 20:03 |
| lichen | lol | 20:03 |
| lichen | eh, i guess my problem isnt with 'immortalism' itself, but rather the image associated with a lot of transhumanists | 20:04 |
| uniqanomaly_ | which is? | 20:04 |
| lichen | the shiny clean future where everyone is happy and "oh for sure, i'll make it to the singularity and live forever as long as i keep popping these vitamins" | 20:05 |
| kanzure | yeah, there's a lot of that (ray kurzweil) | 20:05 |
| kanzure | (almost everyone) | 20:05 |
| lichen | lol | 20:05 |
| lichen | as i'm turning this into a vague, misdirected rant, i should stop | 20:05 |
| kanzure | how about a more proactive discussion | 20:06 |
| lichen | but that entire group just makes me groan a little, although i appreciate what they're trying to do | 20:06 |
| kanzure | yap away.. | 20:06 |
| kanzure | how do you feel about the transhumanists running biocurious, for instance? | 20:06 |
| kanzure | http://biocurious.org/kickstarter/ | 20:07 |
| lichen | i'm not familiar with it | 20:07 |
| kanzure | hackerspace for diybio | 20:07 |
| kanzure | in san francisco | 20:07 |
| lichen | cool | 20:07 |
| kanzure | another one is genspace.org in nyc | 20:07 |
| lichen | yeah ive heard of genspace | 20:07 |
| kanzure | but it's not very transhumanist | 20:07 |
| lichen | biocurious's name makes me smile | 20:07 |
| kanzure | i mean, they aren't transhumanists | 20:07 |
| lichen | it's still science | 20:08 |
| kanzure | "biocurious: curious about biographies?" wait, no | 20:08 |
| lichen | anything that puts science more readily into peoples' hands is great | 20:08 |
| gleapsite | I hope one of these starts selling implant grade magnets. Haworth kinda has a monopoly on them right now. | 20:08 |
| lichen | and thats what i see out of these spaces | 20:08 |
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| lichen | just get some parylene magnets | 20:09 |
| kanzure | lichen: "immortality institute" is basically a giant forum.. probably the best place on the net for nootropics users to get information | 20:09 |
| lichen | parylene-coated neodym | 20:09 |
| gleapsite | coat them myself? | 20:09 |
| kanzure | although my personal gripe about them is that the experiments they plan aren't too thorough.. i.e. they "learn science" by reading pubmed abstracts and getting giddy about keywords | 20:09 |
| lichen | well, my friend is here | 20:10 |
| gleapsite | kanzure: more of journalism than science? | 20:10 |
| lichen | i'll talk later | 20:10 |
| kanzure | gleapsite: in lots of cases yeah | 20:11 |
| kanzure | i mean, you should definitely check it out | 20:11 |
| kanzure | http://imminst.org/ | 20:11 |
| kanzure | just be careful and don't go crazy | 20:11 |
| gleapsite | I added their book to my growing to read folder | 20:11 |
| kanzure | if you want i can make it easier on you and just give you multiple megabytes of my bookmarks.. | 20:13 |
| gleapsite | I haven't even started to scratch the surface of http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/ | 20:14 |
| kanzure | feel free to point out anything you find particularly interesting or worth talking about.. | 20:14 |
| kanzure | (from the papers folder especially) | 20:14 |
| gleapsite | I presume you saw that article recently that claimed bee dances are projections from a 6D flag manifold (which is also used in quantum predictions) | 20:17 |
| gleapsite | specifically this: http://www.neuroquantology.com/repository/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=65:honeybees-are-found-to-interact-with-quantum-fields&catid=59:quantum-field-theory-in-brain&Itemid=70 | 20:18 |
| kanzure | nope | 20:18 |
| gleapsite | hmm. was hoping to try and find an actual paper on it | 20:18 |
| kanzure | i see your bee dances and raise you optogenetic control of mice | 20:19 |
| kanzure | Spatiotemporal control of cell signalling using a light-switchable protein interaction http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7266/abs/nature08446.html | 20:19 |
| gleapsite | fibre optic cable to the head | 20:19 |
| kanzure | (fenn lives with one of the coauthors) | 20:19 |
| gleapsite | yeah | 20:19 |
| kanzure | oh, with the primary author, even neater | 20:19 |
| kanzure | hmm neuroquantology is using joomla | 20:19 |
| kanzure | gleapsite: re: that bee stuff, this is likely worth reading.. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2042139 | 20:20 |
| gleapsite | indeed. | 20:22 |
| jrayhawk | re: fucked repository: should be fixable with sudo rmrepo | 20:22 |
| jrayhawk | normal rmrepo isn't designed to handle repos in an inconsistent state since i don't want users to have any power under undefined circumstances | 20:24 |
| jrayhawk | or, rather, i only want normal users to have power under well-defined circumstances | 20:24 |
| kanzure | i rm'd things a while ago.. | 20:27 |
| kanzure | this is a fairly glaring architectural issue | 20:28 |
| kanzure | "package names must be less than 24 characters so we can host everything on piny" <-- no | 20:29 |
| jrayhawk | I can make that 28 | 20:30 |
| jrayhawk | well, easily | 20:31 |
| kanzure | i'll take that for now.. | 20:33 |
| kanzure | but i'm not thrilled with having to recompile/reconfigure libc every time the system switches in some important way | 20:33 |
| jrayhawk | The current group and user naming scheme is just a convenience, really, and we could achieve the same thing with an index or a hash. | 20:37 |
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| jrayhawk | a different index, i guess i should say. /etc/group is already an index. | 21:13 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/microcentrifuge-tube | 21:30 |
| kanzure | is a dependency of http://diyhpl.us/cgit/dremelfuge | 21:31 |
| kanzure | http://halorrhodopsin.co.tv/ | 22:02 |
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| kanzure | hi Nomadicus | 22:17 |
| Nomadicus | Hello! | 22:17 |
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| Nomadicus | What is your reasoning for being here kanzure? | 22:18 |
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| kanzure | global world domination by 2016; diy human enhancement; etc. | 22:19 |
| Nomadicus | What knowledge do you explore? | 22:20 |
| kanzure | everything | 22:20 |
| Nomadicus | I just discovered the ReRap, are you aware of it? | 22:23 |
| kanzure | reprap, yes | 22:23 |
| Nomadicus | Have you built one? | 22:23 |
| kanzure | no. lots of people in #reprap have | 22:23 |
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| Nomadicus | Do you know how to fabricate an atmospheric water generator? | 22:24 |
| Nomadicus | It is a partiular device I have not found instructions for yet. | 22:25 |
| kanzure | a condenser/condensator? | 22:26 |
| Nomadicus | I am not sure what your question is intended to querry? | 22:26 |
| augur | *sigh* | 22:27 |
| augur | kanzure: fix me :( | 22:27 |
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| delinquentme | gents .. can we talk for a minute .. about mental exhaustion vrs physical exhaustion | 22:52 |
| delinquentme | ive got a really wild thing going on right now | 22:53 |
| delinquentme | i havnt done shit all day | 22:53 |
| delinquentme | but im physically very tuckered out | 22:53 |
| delinquentme | however MENTALLY .. im feeling like i want more to chew on ... | 22:53 |
| delinquentme | SITTING posture | 22:57 |
| delinquentme | this helps | 22:57 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 23:05 |
| delinquentme | howdy JayDugger | 23:06 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/microcentrifuge-tube | 23:08 |
| augur | kanzure: please | 23:11 |
| augur | i need someone who understands me | 23:12 |
| augur | tell me you understand me | 23:12 |
| kanzure | i don't understand any of you and you all suck | 23:12 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 23:12 | |
| jrayhawk | words can hurt, jerkface! | 23:12 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: sebastien is going to have some questions in a few seconds.. sorry | 23:13 |
| kanzure | or ralith | 23:13 |
| JayDugger | Heh. I thought sleep deprivation made _me_ irritable. :) | 23:13 |
| jrayhawk | I need to go put out a server-related fire, so I won't be able to get to it soon. | 23:13 |
| jrayhawk | If my IRC client exits, the fire has spread. | 23:14 |
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| sebastienb | evening, all. | 23:15 |
| kanzure | hi sebastienb ... you should bug fenn or jrayhawk with questions while i sleep | 23:15 |
| sebastienb | will do. | 23:16 |
| jrayhawk | email will work better; i need to deal with an emergency. jrayhawk@omgwallhack.org | 23:16 |
| sebastienb | jrayhawk, will do. | 23:16 |
| augur | kanzure: <3 | 23:17 |
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| sebastienb | fenn, how's the mini-mendel? | 23:44 |
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