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CryptoQuick | how's it hangin fellas | 07:28 |
CryptoQuick | who here likes simcity? | 07:29 |
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fenn | interesting list of goals here http://www.xprize.org/prize-development/life-sciences | 08:06 |
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fenn | i met my "stalker" at qs conference: http://vimeo.com/groups/17842/videos/21852158 | 08:23 |
fenn | it was amusing and sort of awkward | 08:24 |
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CryptoQuick | ...someone's having fun :P | 09:09 |
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lesbiman | no i honestly am | 09:15 |
lesbiman | all of them | 09:15 |
lesbiman | in all states at once | 09:15 |
lesbiman | until u collapse function | 09:15 |
CryptoQuick | reminds me of a movie I saw where these guys went to thailand | 09:16 |
lesbiman | im a flip switch bitch | 09:16 |
CryptoQuick | hawt | 09:16 |
CryptoQuick | it'd hit that | 09:16 |
lesbiman | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6OSMZmN5YQk/TKKVRtQcZNI/AAAAAAAAAa4/ixhvUF95DVk/s1600/Buck+Angel.jpg | 09:18 |
CryptoQuick | is that as big is as it gets? | 09:19 |
* CryptoQuick is disappoint | 09:19 | |
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CryptoQuick | just got texted from a lover. opportunity awaits!!! bye now | 09:23 |
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fenn | shock warning first please | 09:28 |
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panax | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/silkroad/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 | 13:10 |
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fenn | 1 bitcoin = $3? wow | 13:23 |
uniqanomaly | lol, that was like month ago | 13:27 |
uniqanomaly | isn't it worth ~8$ now? | 13:27 |
fenn | no idea, that's a lot though | 13:28 |
uniqanomaly | https://mtgox.com/trade/history | 13:28 |
uniqanomaly | http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11061.0 | 13:28 |
uniqanomaly | this one is particularly funny | 13:28 |
fenn | this article will probably make the exchange rate go through the roof | 13:28 |
uniqanomaly | how do they imagine that, seizing computers/ search w/o seizing | 13:29 |
uniqanomaly | & searching for illegal digital currency | 13:29 |
fenn | bad translation, that | 13:30 |
fenn | you do have to exchange money for bitcoins, that's a weak part of the whole online system | 13:30 |
uniqanomaly | there's whole barter system | 13:31 |
uniqanomaly | like drugs | 13:31 |
uniqanomaly | if they make it illegal i guess drugs dealers will also sell bitcoins | 13:31 |
uniqanomaly | that's just fucked up | 13:31 |
uniqanomaly | also that's just the way things work | 13:32 |
uniqanomaly | lmao | 13:33 |
uniqanomaly | bitcoin mobsters | 13:33 |
uniqanomaly | "today FBI seized 10k bitcoins" | 13:33 |
uniqanomaly | ahahahah | 13:33 |
fenn | heh you know they would use them too | 13:33 |
fenn | government TLA agencies love untraceable currency | 13:34 |
uniqanomaly | well some say that drugs prohibition was/is here to finance some CIA operations | 13:34 |
* uniqanomaly is waiting for nuke in garden | 13:35 | |
fenn | bitcoin really took off around 4/20 | 13:35 |
kanzure | there's something like $40M in bitcoins now | 13:36 |
uniqanomaly | yeah | 13:36 |
kanzure | all the rage, etc. etc. | 13:36 |
uniqanomaly | simple result of publicity | 13:36 |
kanzure | ybit was talking about bitcoin in here back in.. uh | 13:37 |
kanzure | 2009? 2008? | 13:37 |
uniqanomaly | 09 | 13:37 |
fenn | i think it was nsh who brought it up | 13:37 |
kanzure | nsh is just a bot | 13:38 |
fenn | a smart bot | 13:38 |
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uniqanomaly | it's soul that matters | 13:38 |
fenn | meh | 13:39 |
uniqanomaly | ok, agnostic joke | 13:39 |
uniqanomaly | haha | 13:41 |
uniqanomaly | yes, portal AI would make a fit, just talking to myself | 13:42 |
fenn | what's with all the angry comments on the silk road article.. i'd expect them to welcome more sellers and buyers.. i'm sure the DEA already knows about it anyway | 13:55 |
uniqanomaly | anyway | 14:06 |
uniqanomaly | i still can't compute drugs prohibition, it just doesn't compute | 14:06 |
uniqanomaly | creating bunch of Al Capones in the name of allegedly drugs free world | 14:07 |
uniqanomaly | don't compute | 14:07 |
uniqanomaly | doesn't* | 14:07 |
uniqanomaly | prohibition fuels organised crime, nothing more, nothing less | 14:08 |
uniqanomaly | or is just the point | 14:08 |
uniqanomaly | yeah, that does compute | 14:08 |
uniqanomaly | whatever | 14:08 |
uniqanomaly | or is that * | 14:08 |
uniqanomaly | btw. nice idea for a poster | 14:10 |
uniqanomaly | "US gov. by drugs prohibition is creating work places all over the country since 1971" | 14:10 |
uniqanomaly | ahahahah | 14:10 |
uniqanomaly | blah | 14:13 |
lumos | hi | 14:14 |
lumos | fenn, bitcoin silkroad? | 14:14 |
uniqanomaly | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/silkroad/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 | 14:14 |
uniqanomaly | this one | 14:15 |
lumos | cool thx | 14:16 |
lumos | what are you reading atm | 14:17 |
lumos | i was an early bitcoin adopter | 14:17 |
lumos | i'm so happy to see shit like this | 14:17 |
uniqanomaly | http://mashable.com/2010/08/10/personalized-news-stream/ ;) | 14:18 |
lumos | can you take out all the fluff and compress for me | 14:19 |
lumos | do that | 14:19 |
lumos | and i will do you a favour | 14:19 |
lumos | i'll compress what i've been reading | 14:19 |
lumos | ok uniqanomaly ? | 14:22 |
fenn | some of these david pearce ideas are just too much | 14:22 |
fenn | "In a predominantly secular society, adopting a hedonistic death-style is much more responsible from an ethical utilitarian perspective. For it promises to spare friends and relations the miseries of vicarious suffering and distress they are liable to undergo at present as they witness one's decline." | 14:22 |
uniqanomaly | lumos: i'm here | 14:23 |
uniqanomaly | lumos: nice barter idea | 14:23 |
uniqanomaly | question is what were you reading lately :P | 14:23 |
lumos | uniqanomaly, MANDELBROT | 14:23 |
lumos | :D | 14:23 |
lumos | ok rules | 14:24 |
lumos | word limits a<x<b | 14:24 |
fenn | uniqanomaly: we voted on legalization of marijuana here in california recently, one of the big reasons it didn't pass was that legalization would destroy the economy of several counties whose major trade is illegal marijuana | 14:24 |
fenn | well, further legalization | 14:25 |
uniqanomaly | lumos: ok ok, i believe you :D | 14:25 |
lumos | uniqanomaly, i can change it if you give me a topic you like | 14:25 |
lumos | i will give you a new idea though | 14:25 |
lumos | that i promise | 14:25 |
lumos | i've never done this kind of thing before it has to be good | 14:25 |
fenn | you guys are trading summarization services? | 14:26 |
lumos | fenn you want in? | 14:26 |
fenn | uh, not really | 14:27 |
lumos | many eyes see more bugs | 14:27 |
fenn | i will provide my services gratis for works i have read and remember | 14:27 |
fenn | until i get bored at least | 14:27 |
lumos | fenn, thats good all information is good information | 14:27 |
lumos | fenn, tell topic of interest | 14:27 |
fenn | i am reading "storming heaven: LSD and the american dream" | 14:28 |
fenn | and various things written by david pearce about nootropics and other psychoactive drugs | 14:28 |
fenn | actually you can see what i read about here http://fennetic.net/sleep/stats/net_topics_time.txt | 14:29 |
lumos | oh cool, i am interested in nootropics, i heard about kurzweils schedule | 14:29 |
lumos | space is good | 14:29 |
fenn | er, actually this is mor9e coherent http://fennetic.net/sleep/stats/net_topics_ngrams_time.txt | 14:30 |
lumos | n grams | 14:30 |
lumos | tell me more about ngrams | 14:30 |
lumos | i know the basics | 14:30 |
fenn | it's just a sequence of 1 or more words | 14:30 |
lumos | i know | 14:30 |
lumos | tell me an interesting idea | 14:30 |
lumos | ennumerating stories with them | 14:30 |
lumos | or something | 14:30 |
lumos | n-gram music | 14:30 |
lumos | i dont know | 14:30 |
fenn | uh, you can find statistically improbable phrases in a bunch of text that probably tells you an interesting idea that's in the text | 14:30 |
lumos | i know the math behind them | 14:31 |
lumos | but | 14:31 |
fenn | statistically improbable musical phrases would sound something like aphex twin | 14:31 |
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uniqanomaly | sounds great | 14:32 |
fenn | my goal for today was to work on coding an associative memory system | 14:32 |
lumos | if n-grams show text redundancy could you have a kind of assembly language where you can have any possible meaning through simple word constructs, this would take more time, and would be more redundant no? but would allow for greater meaning, so less data loss, rather than having the number of ideas being the base of the language, and the base being the number of words | 14:32 |
fenn | you type in some phrases and they get associated with other phrases | 14:32 |
lumos | cool, show me when done | 14:33 |
lumos | ok 'okcupid' haha | 14:33 |
fenn | i was inspired by memex.mx | 14:33 |
lumos | what is that | 14:33 |
fenn | okcupid is a serious time sink | 14:33 |
lumos | uniqanomaly, i havent forgotton | 14:33 |
fenn | it's a url | 14:33 |
lumos | fenn, lojban | 14:33 |
uniqanomaly | lumos: yeah sorry | 14:33 |
lumos | fenn, mi parolas esperanto :) | 14:33 |
lumos | tell me about memex.mx | 14:34 |
fenn | i never made it anywhere in lojban, mostly because it's an ugly horrible thing that nobody knows how to speak | 14:34 |
lumos | fenn, why ugly/horrid? | 14:34 |
fenn | it just sounds like a hodgepodge | 14:34 |
lumos | fenn, i looked at those okcupid tests they are hilarious | 14:35 |
uniqanomaly | lumos: brb and then we do teh writin | 14:35 |
lumos | fenn, what do you think of the minkowskian coordinate system they use | 14:35 |
fenn | memex.mx is mark carranza's personal memory curation system; it's hard to explain without an interactive demo | 14:35 |
lumos | fenn, can i download? | 14:35 |
fenn | i don't think so | 14:35 |
lumos | :C | 14:35 |
lumos | tell me how they work | 14:35 |
lumos | like specifically | 14:36 |
fenn | he's planning on making something open source, with php, but i didnt really understand what he was talking about | 14:36 |
fenn | the original memex software was written in 1984 for dos | 14:36 |
fenn | "the minkowskian coordinate system they use" refers to what? | 14:36 |
lumos | fenn, let me find post | 14:36 |
lumos | like instead of | 14:36 |
lumos | left right | 14:36 |
lumos | or whatever | 14:36 |
lumos | or even | 14:36 |
lumos | any kind of relative geometry | 14:36 |
lumos | they use a proper space-time system | 14:37 |
fenn | who is "they"? | 14:37 |
lumos | lojban | 14:37 |
fenn | oh | 14:37 |
lumos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DwT_2QQU64 | 14:37 |
fenn | there is left and right | 14:37 |
fenn | do i dare click | 14:37 |
lumos | ahhh then i think the post was some people wanting that | 14:37 |
lumos | yes its about genes | 14:38 |
fenn | why does that have 10 million views | 14:39 |
lumos | fenn, why you search sl | 14:39 |
lumos | do you go on the metaverse? | 14:39 |
fenn | that was probably me playing sl | 14:40 |
lumos | what is username | 14:40 |
fenn | i didn't really like the interface, and probably my computer was too slow | 14:40 |
fenn | fenn wakawaka | 14:40 |
lumos | there are other clients | 14:40 |
lumos | ok i added | 14:41 |
fenn | i mostly played around with building new and sillier weapon-like objects, and was helping someone with a lossless image compression problem (sl just happened to be convenient for moving matrix represenations around in space) | 14:41 |
lumos | cool, i am building an AI with someone | 14:42 |
lumos | uniqanomaly i'm sending my people to speak to your people | 14:45 |
Utopiah | fenn: have you participated to memex.mx? I asked Mark Carranza about a year ago about it, following the QS video, but he was then sick and I didn't follow up | 14:47 |
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fenn | i emailed him for invite code but havent heard back | 14:50 |
fenn | i dont really need access to it though.. i doubt it implements any of the interface he actually uses, and i don't particularly care about his data | 14:50 |
fenn | i mean, not that it's not interesting, but it's probably mostly things that wouldn't mean anything to me | 14:51 |
Utopiah | ok, thanks | 14:52 |
fenn | i dont get why google web history rss download pusses out after 999 | 14:56 |
uniqanomaly | 666 gotta be somewhere right? | 14:56 |
uniqanomaly | haha :P | 14:57 |
kanzure | fenn: use the google web history scraper i wrote | 14:58 |
kanzure | unless they've changed the html | 14:58 |
fenn | where? | 15:02 |
fenn | really this is about why the fuck do i need a scraper | 15:02 |
fenn | apparently i already downloaded it manually before | 15:05 |
fenn | because i couldnt figure out how to use wget with their cookies | 15:05 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/google-web-history-scraper.py | 15:06 |
kanzure | oh wait. | 15:06 |
kanzure | yeah i don't have that within arm's reach at the moment :x | 15:07 |
kanzure | that was last mentioned http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-01-19.log | 15:07 |
fenn | first link is 404 | 15:09 |
kanzure | yes because i've never finished uploading heybryan.org back to heybryan.org | 15:09 |
kanzure | man why is my crap so disorganized | 15:10 |
fenn | your brain is disorganized :P | 15:11 |
kanzure | i don't think so | 15:11 |
kanzure | theoretically if you make a brain-hook so that "whenever you do something, make sure it goes to the right place" things should clean themselves up | 15:11 |
fenn | because categorization is a false ontological paradigm | 15:11 |
kanzure | but so far this is the result. | 15:11 |
Utopiah | organization change as your learn | 15:12 |
fenn | i just mean tags generally work better than hierarchies | 15:12 |
fenn | kanzure you should keep things you create separate from other random stuff you happen to be archiving | 15:15 |
kanzure | i generally do (~/code) | 15:16 |
kanzure | ~/my-doc... and then papers/outgoing :P | 15:16 |
kanzure | and then i have ~/scripts.. uh. | 15:17 |
kanzure | ls -1 ~/code | wc -l | 15:17 |
kanzure | 75 | 15:17 |
fenn | ls -1 sandbox | wc -l | 15:21 |
fenn | 233 | 15:21 |
fenn | hum | 15:21 |
fenn | that's not all code though | 15:21 |
kanzure | ls -1 ~/scripts/* | wc -l | 15:22 |
kanzure | 2374 | 15:22 |
CryptoQuick | wouldn't you cat *.py | wc -l ? | 15:38 |
CryptoQuick | wait, you have that many separate scripts? :P | 15:39 |
fenn | he has lots of crap like 2011-06-01.py | 15:40 |
CryptoQuick | ... | 15:41 |
CryptoQuick | why, if I had a script for every day I've been writing scripts... :P | 15:41 |
kanzure | CryptoQuick: the file fenn wants is on another physical hdd for me | 15:43 |
CryptoQuick | so inconvenient | 15:43 |
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fenn | i ended up manually downloading again, https://www.google.com/history/lookup?q=&num=1000&start=0000&output=rss then start=1000 etc | 17:50 |
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fenn | on a slightly unrelated note, xmlstarlet is pretty handy for dealing with xml files | 18:05 |
kanzure | hi industromatic | 18:25 |
kanzure | when's the boil? | 18:25 |
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klord | kanzure: how's it going? you around? | 18:36 |
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kanzure | klord: yes i'm around | 19:09 |
kanzure | mutzing around with iOS | 19:09 |
klord | fun times :) | 19:15 |
klord | what are you working on? | 19:15 |
kanzure | http://hoppersdk.com/ for iOS | 19:15 |
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kanzure | heh mechanical switching of bond angle | 19:32 |
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klord | that's pretty awesome | 19:40 |
klord | i just added uservoice feedback in my app | 19:40 |
klord | but something like this would be even better | 19:41 |
klord | the phone in the demo looks so confused | 19:41 |
klord | an android phone running iOS | 19:41 |
klord | do you have much experience with ec2 by any chance? | 19:42 |
klord | specifically running things cross-region | 19:42 |
kanzure | yes i have ec2 experience, | 19:49 |
kanzure | no cross-region experience | 19:49 |
kanzure | uservoice is sort of a hack for apps dude :) | 19:50 |
klord | ah, ok. the fact that security groups are region specific, and that you can't create rules even between groups in different regions...is a real bummer | 19:51 |
klord | going to create a mess of firewall rules | 19:51 |
klord | ha, yeah it is | 19:51 |
klord | i figured it was better than nothing | 19:51 |
kanzure | i made a gif of my work on the android version of hopper sdk: | 19:52 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/2011-04-11-212956-hopper-progress.gif | 19:52 |
kanzure | i wrote a script to take a screenshot after every time i compiled/tested the app | 19:52 |
klord | ha, that's cool | 19:53 |
klord | i've been rocking the nexus one lately | 19:53 |
kanzure | well, if you give me a few more days the iOS version will be ready for beta testing | 19:54 |
kanzure | (beta testing of a beta testing project, aww yeah) | 19:54 |
klord | lol | 19:55 |
klord | yeah, let me know. i'll give it a whirl | 19:55 |
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foucist | fenn: that girl in the vid was your stalker or what? i don't get it | 20:01 |
foucist | or are you actually frick? | 20:02 |
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foucist | heh | 20:11 |
kanzure | foucist: http://fennetic.net/sleeplog/ | 20:15 |
kanzure | er, | 20:15 |
kanzure | http://fennetic.net/sleep/ | 20:16 |
foucist | ah? | 20:17 |
foucist | so she used his data? | 20:17 |
kanzure | fenn suffers from small world syndrome where parts of him are randomly repeated in the general population | 20:19 |
foucist | heh | 20:20 |
foucist | that's a terrible affliction | 20:21 |
fenn | it's a symptom of slow-onset solipsism | 20:24 |
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kanzure | meh this doesn't look particularly interesting: | 22:09 |
kanzure | http://i.imgur.com/Xq7ih.png | 22:09 |
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fenn | the wiki is only accessible by tor? | 22:56 |
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