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| nmz787 | CaptHindsight: I found a vacuum bearing around here for about $10 if you think you could beat that, re making one of these... would aide automation of kanzure's gripes about PDMS https://www.takeitapart.com/guide/10 | 00:14 |
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| nmz787 | then otherwise you just need a BLDC motor I think, and the spin plate and motor controller with back-EMF sensing presumably, and mcu/etc to set ramp rates and times, etc | 00:16 |
| nmz787 | then you then a slider on it, move the spin-coated PDMS over to an expsorure rig, then into the ez-bake until done | 00:17 |
| diginet | does anyone here have access to emerald insight journals? | 00:18 |
| nmz787 | you probably need to paste a direct link, or DOI | 00:18 |
| diginet | http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/13552540410512499 | 00:19 |
| diginet | I already tried libgen, but to no avail | 00:19 |
| nmz787 | could try requesting on researchgate | 00:20 |
| diginet | true | 00:21 |
| nmz787 | here's a totally different article that some attempted searches lead me to, that I seem to be able to open: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875389214003034 | 00:22 |
| nmz787 | .title | 00:22 |
| yoleaux | Powder Layer Preparation Using Vibration-controlled Capillary Steel Nozzles for Additive Manufacturing | 00:22 |
| diginet | nmz787: ooh, interesting. thanks. I'll ask a friend tomorrow to help | 00:23 |
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| kanzure | lightning network onion routing proposal https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/blob/onion/test/test_onion.c | 07:04 |
| CaptHindsight | huh, that spincoater https://www.takeitapart.com/guide/10 is a Direct Logic PLC, and Dynetic Systems motor driver power supply | 07:04 |
| CaptHindsight | nmz787: $10 already sounds cheap enough to not care about looking further unless you're going into mass production | 07:08 |
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| kanzure | "optical rectenna" (light to DC current) | 07:24 |
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| Stskeeps | merged | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | err.. ignore me | 07:34 |
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| kanzure | Stskeeps: greetings | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | greetings | 07:58 |
| kanzure | what brings you here | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | curiosity and interest in human augmentation | 08:01 |
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| kanzure | seen bodyhacking mailing list and/or convention? the one in austin. | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, no | 08:02 |
| kanzure | this one http://bodyhackingcon.com/ | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | i'm more over in the inteligence amplification camp, big fan of doug engelbart's thoughts | 08:03 |
| kanzure | it's a little too tatooey for me, but w/e | 08:03 |
| kanzure | oh i see | 08:03 |
| kanzure | "xanadu forever" then? | 08:04 |
| kanzure | well that wasn't engelbart, probably unfair | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | naah, that was ted nelson | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.dougengelbart.org/pubs/augment-3906.html | 08:05 |
| kanzure | surprising amount of gains just from low friction shortcuts | 08:07 |
| kanzure | and compilation too (nobody is going to get anywhere if they have to always read a million (software or otherwise) docs to get anything done) | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | think there's still a lot we can do with our extended minds with mobile devices involved | 08:08 |
| cpopell | lower friction note taking--I'm excited to play with onenote when the surface4 comes out | 08:10 |
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| kanzure | open vim, type words | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | been recently reading http://www.amazon.com/Glass-Cage-Where-Automation-Taking-ebook/dp/B00NOPQUKM/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me= , kind of interesting examples on how to not always do automation and get better results from it | 08:12 |
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| kanzure | better results from non-automation, or from automation | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | from non-automation | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | an example in there was to give two groups two different user interfaces, one aiding them to do things easily and one that was more rudimentary, at more complex tasks the latter group performed better | 08:13 |
| kanzure | maybe the definition of easy was just bad? | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | sure, but if your mind doesn't bother to make a mental model since it's too easy to work with.. | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | then applying more complex problems to be solved will be hard | 08:14 |
| kanzure | i was thinking of using my phone to display vertical list of browser tabs open on desktop/laptop browser | 08:14 |
| kanzure | sorta tab scroll wheel of sorts | 08:14 |
| kanzure | but then i remembered i hate scrolling and would rather type | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | sometimes it's not a bad idea to take the human mind into the loop in a program | 08:16 |
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| kanzure | http://www.humanconnectomeproject.org/data/inventory/ | 08:19 |
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| kanzure | and the most important output of a project, colorful images i guess http://www.humanconnectomeproject.org/gallery/ | 08:20 |
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| btcdrak | that makes me want to buy an fMRI | 08:29 |
| kanzure | you should want to buy an fmri | 08:33 |
| kanzure | btcdrak: also you should consider CT machines. | 08:33 |
| kanzure | everyone should have a CT machine | 08:33 |
| btcdrak | give yourself cancer at home. | 08:33 |
| kanzure | also you can do ultrasound, which has less risk of cancer | 08:34 |
| btcdrak | You cant do prolonged a repeated scans with CTs, ultrasound and fMRI would be pretty amusing. Though the electric bills might not be. | 08:34 |
| kanzure | electric bill for ultrasound should be fine | 08:35 |
| btcdrak | How much does an fMRI cost, hrm.. | 08:35 |
| kanzure | too much, to be honest | 08:36 |
| kanzure | portable homebrew ultrasound scanner stuff was mentioned here, http://gnusha.org/logs/2014-04-27.log | 08:38 |
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| fenn | this "glass cage" book sounds like a million scare stories about "oh noes the internetz are rotting our brains" | 08:52 |
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| fenn | i think jef raskin made some good points in "the humane interface" about designing interactions such that they can be habituated | 08:53 |
| fenn | lol - Carr's previous book, "The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains," | 08:54 |
| fenn | "Is Google Making Us Stupid?," | 08:55 |
| fenn | it seems inconsistent to come in here praising engelbart and then link to a book by this guy | 08:55 |
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| fenn | engelbart would have shat his pants on seeing what google can do in 2015 | 08:56 |
| kanzure | speaking of which, a lot of hplusroadmap stuff is too burried for google to find | 08:57 |
| kanzure | diyhpl.us wiki page titles are the sort of unappealing page titles that google likes to ignore | 08:57 |
| fenn | google cares about title content? | 08:58 |
| kanzure | google loves <title> content that matches url content, like <title>physics of dyson sphere collapse</title> and /physics-of-dyson-sphere-collapse | 08:58 |
| fenn | can't we automate this | 08:59 |
| fenn | <title>$slug</title> | 08:59 |
| kanzure | whereas <title>projects</title> is completely ignored http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/ | 08:59 |
| fenn | i don't see the difference | 09:00 |
| kanzure | the difference with what? | 09:00 |
| fenn | they both match the url ending | 09:00 |
| kanzure | "projects" is too generic for google to figure out | 09:01 |
| fenn | <title>diyhplus wiki: projects</title> | 09:01 |
| kanzure | quite literally searching for "dna projects igem celegans" on google brings up a bunch of igem links, and then some quote from gnusha.org/logs long before diyhpl.us shows up as a result | 09:01 |
| kanzure | (in particular http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-01-26.log ) | 09:02 |
| kanzure | "12:18 < maaku> i want him to submit his project to futureoflife.org for ..... http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/#igem-2014 16:41 < Genestealer> i ..." | 09:02 |
| pasky | imho it might trigger some linkfarm sensors | 09:02 |
| kanzure | hplusroadmap has lots of unique content | 09:03 |
| pasky | well you have a bunch of links and some unique content; that looks the same as a lot of spammy websites, which use the unique content to create an appearance of some... content | 09:04 |
| pasky | plus, navigating the page is painful too; imho would be nicer to both users and google to split years to separate pages | 09:04 |
| kanzure | yeah i would like content to not be trapped in the irc logs somehow | 09:05 |
| fenn | let's just hire that kanzure guy to read every hplusroadmap irc log ever | 09:06 |
| fenn | he's really good at typing i hear | 09:06 |
| pasky | and reading irc logs quickly! | 09:06 |
| fenn | no but seriously, topic modeling is an ok solution | 09:06 |
| fenn | .wik topic modeling | 09:07 |
| yoleaux | "In machine learning and natural language processing, a topic model is a type of statistical model for discovering the abstract "topics" that occur in a collection of documents." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_modeling | 09:07 |
| fenn | it can be implemented really simply like just word counts | 09:07 |
| kanzure | i have seen attempts at figuring out the most weightworthy tags from a collection of documents (i have no idea where i have seen this) (maybe it was my own meetlog work?), and they are always just a list of 1000 of the most vague topic headings like "search" and "computing" and "hardware"... how is that helpful? | 09:08 |
| pasky | anyway, i'm not even sure what the value of http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/ is supposed to be; it has 504 hyperlinks noone will ever go through en masse and which just mostly go to igem anyway, doesn't igem have their own index of projects? | 09:08 |
| kanzure | igem has an index of teams | 09:08 |
| fenn | once you've sorted things into piles of similar documents you can dig through and manually "uniq" them much faster because there's no context switching | 09:08 |
| kanzure | i wrote those summaries | 09:08 |
| fenn | the summaries are valuable inasmuch as one believe igem projects are valuable | 09:09 |
| kanzure | right, yeah, lots of igem projects don't actually work of course, but some of the ideas are okay | 09:10 |
| fenn | the ideas are usually good, but the implementation is always woefully incomplete | 09:10 |
| kanzure | part of the reason i made that page was because everyone keeps asking me why i want dna synthesis | 09:10 |
| fenn | oh | 09:10 |
| kanzure | and it's absurd that anyone needs to fucking justify cheap dna synthesis but that's the state of the world yo | 09:10 |
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| fenn | well i often found myself having to justify why one would want a 3d printer | 09:10 |
| fenn | there's a huge disconnect between people who make things and people who don't | 09:11 |
| fenn | of course there's no reason to want a 3d printer if you can just buy things at walmar | 09:11 |
| kanzure | or if you have super laser metal sintering machine thing | 09:11 |
| fenn | and likewise there's no reason to want a dna printer if you can just buy dna | 09:11 |
| fenn | or if you don't need dna at all | 09:11 |
| kanzure | well anyway; this is a pretty good overview of interesting things to do with lots of cheap dna. | 09:12 |
| fenn | but there's a qualitative difference in quick turnaround time between designing something and testing it | 09:12 |
| fenn | in the 1970s they did a scientific comparison of batch computing vs interactive computing, and interactive computing blew batch computing out of the water | 09:13 |
| fenn | the same thing happens with physical production | 09:13 |
| fenn | of new things | 09:13 |
| fenn | weird, my search: scientific batch computing vs interactive "mythical man-month" | 09:15 |
| fenn | yields this: http://www.softpanorama.org/HPC/Molecular_modeling_software/Vasp/index.shtml | 09:15 |
| fenn | i guess it's not that weird, nevermind | 09:16 |
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| fenn | if Carr (author of "is google making us stupid?") has a valid point, it would be that we are now exposed to way more information and our filters suck | 09:17 |
| fenn | so we remember a lot of low signal information | 09:18 |
| kanzure | during my scalingbitcoin talk i attempted to remind the audience that lots of good ideas in bitcoin community come from anonymous sources | 09:19 |
| kanzure | this is difficult to deal with because natural inclination is to look for regular reliable sources of high signal | 09:19 |
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| pasky | kanzure: btw I've taken the labels, split to words, did sort /tmp/z | tr '-' '\n' | tr -cd 'a-zA-Z0-9\n' | uniq -c | sort -n | fgrep -v -w -f ~/WWW/pro/argus/argus/sources/stopwords_long.txt | 09:20 |
| kanzure | labels? | 09:20 |
| pasky | kanzure: http://pasky.or.cz/cp/junk/dnaprojects.txt might be useful to create a tagcloud or whatever, take concepts with >=3 occurences | 09:20 |
| pasky | labels of the links | 09:20 |
| fenn | this is basically what i suggested for sorting/navigating the bitcoin bookmarks; i think it's the same problem | 09:22 |
| kanzure | not sure what i am supposed to do with this list of words | 09:22 |
| fenn | click on 'ecoli' and it shows all projects using ecoli | 09:23 |
| kanzure | what is a tag cloud supposed to tell me? | 09:23 |
| kanzure | okay but that's a total complete lie | 09:23 |
| kanzure | just because it wasn't labeled with ecoli doesn't mean it didn't use ecoli | 09:23 |
| fenn | it's good enough | 09:23 |
| kanzure | for what? | 09:23 |
| fenn | your butt also uses ecoli but it doesn't need to be in the list | 09:24 |
| kanzure | why not? butt fragrance or something maybe | 09:24 |
| fenn | if the labeling is inaccurate/incomplete then that's a different problem | 09:24 |
| pasky | kanzure: if you didn't mention ecoli in the label, ecoli probably isn't the important part, that's my working assumption here :) | 09:24 |
| kanzure | "shock level" sorting might be a useful way to organize that info, except the shock levels from sl4 always sucked | 09:24 |
| kanzure | "anything above shock level 7 is a threat that is impossible to account for in any conceivable threat model" er, thanks | 09:25 |
| pasky | it'd be also probably pretty trivial to re-crawl the links and look for occurence counts of these keywords | 09:25 |
| fenn | tegmark 4 objects blah blah | 09:25 |
| kanzure | are they really called tegmark4 objects | 09:25 |
| * kanzure looks at http://sl4.org/shocklevels.html | 09:26 | |
| fenn | i don't know man i just live here | 09:26 |
| kanzure | so again, what is the point of the tag cloud from a usability perspective? | 09:27 |
| kanzure | what problems is it theoretically solving | 09:27 |
| kanzure | also i am interested in practical examples of extremely useful tag clouds | 09:27 |
| fenn | connecting users to information they might find more interesting than the rest of the documents in the pile | 09:27 |
| fenn | providing a summary of what types of things are in the pile | 09:28 |
| kanzure | i don't think that sort of summary is apparent from the list of words that pasky posted | 09:28 |
| fenn | you've already gone over the pile so the tag cloud is useless for you; you already know what's in the pile | 09:28 |
| kanzure | that list has nothing about symbiotes, wound healing, protein design, biodefense, timing, 3d printing, etc. | 09:28 |
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| kanzure | well i guess it does, but they are the unweighted tags | 09:29 |
| fenn | it does have "symbiosis" "wounds" "protein" "printing" | 09:30 |
| kanzure | maybe this deserves a more academic approach; what does shannon say about signal-to-noise | 09:30 |
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| pasky | it's entirely possible it's as useless as what's currently on the site :) | 09:30 |
| pasky | where i wouldn't learn about symbiotes, wound healing, protein design, biodefense, timing, 3d printing, etc. either | 09:30 |
| pasky | because it's just 10 links out of the 500 | 09:30 |
| kanzure | those don't stick out to you as surprising or interesting? | 09:30 |
| fenn | yeah i don't see why these tags are special | 09:30 |
| kanzure | because most people don't think "oh it's obvious that this has applications to wound healing" | 09:31 |
| maaku | kanzure: I find it unlikely that FOL would fund a dna extraction project, although I'd happy to be wrong. | 09:31 |
| kanzure | FOL? | 09:31 |
| maaku | future of life | 09:31 |
| fenn | elon musk money | 09:31 |
| kanzure | for gravedigging? | 09:31 |
| pasky | kanzure: when you mention it, it sticks out as very interesting, but i would never find it in the list of links | 09:31 |
| maaku | I did successfully get someone to submit a practical, near-term AGI project to FOL and get it funded, so they are paying for useful stuff | 09:32 |
| maaku | unlike, *ahem*, certain other AI-risk organizations | 09:32 |
| kanzure | not sure why bringing up graverobbing for dna extraction here? | 09:32 |
| kanzure | i mean yes fun project | 09:32 |
| pasky | I'm not sure if it's easy to automate finding the *interesting* stuff; at least it's easy to group the projects along other criteria, like if they are about bacterias or humans | 09:32 |
| fenn | if you think a particular bookmark is interesting you should tag it as such | 09:33 |
| pasky | e.g. make 4 in each year bold | 09:34 |
| kanzure | one lame way to do it is to focus on igem biobrick part classification and categories :-( | 09:35 |
| maaku | kanzure: here's the one I helped apply -- http://futureoflife.org/AI/2015awardees#Sotala | 09:35 |
| kanzure | ah you know sotala | 09:35 |
| kanzure | kaj i mean | 09:35 |
| maaku | only $20k grant, but that'll be a good start | 09:35 |
| maaku | yeah | 09:35 |
| kanzure | i think elon could be convinced to fund some mars colonization synthetic biology / genetic engineering stuff (which, coincidentally, shows up on that igem project summaries page) | 09:36 |
| kanzure | fenn: another way to frame the page is "Hello adventurer, you have received a magical dna synthesis machine. Here are some things that you should consider a priority: " and then list out some surprising non-obvious stuff i guess. | 09:39 |
| kanzure | i have seen not many tag clouds from #swhack as i would have expected; it's a little weird. i used to think of nsh/sbp as kings of tag clouds. i was expecting to get indoctrinated. | 09:41 |
| fenn | i haven't osmosed super-rationality either | 09:42 |
| kanzure | from where? | 09:43 |
| kanzure | oh right | 09:43 |
| kanzure | well are they trying? | 09:43 |
| fenn | no | 09:43 |
| fenn | i am a non-player character according to the intern | 09:44 |
| fenn | just a markov chain that spews random technobabble | 09:44 |
| kanzure | "your diagnosis is completely unhelpful" | 09:45 |
| fenn | it's very easy to make cognitive dissonance go away if you pretend the other side doesn't exist | 09:46 |
| fenn | i'm not sure if this is a joke or not | 09:46 |
| kanzure | lately i have liked using words about thread models when people bring up magic super ai silver bullets destroying all of the known galaxy | 09:47 |
| kanzure | ... threat models. | 09:47 |
| kanzure | ("yes well that's outside the scope of the threat model") | 09:47 |
| fenn | dump some words into my markov matrix | 09:47 |
| kanzure | ("or of useful threat models" i guess) | 09:47 |
| kanzure | no that's all i have at the moment | 09:47 |
| fenn | pff | 09:47 |
| fenn | some anti-anti-ai ai programmer you are | 09:48 |
| kanzure | most of my time is spent filing fart compliance reports for the cftc, you see | 09:48 |
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| kanzure | from an engineering perspective, eliminating single points of failure gets us some pretty big wins against lots of both internal and external threat or failure modes | 09:49 |
| kanzure | but worrying about "unstoppable" silver bullets that theoretically trump any threat model, does not really help anyone | 09:49 |
| fenn | you haven't even heard all of the "sin swallower" arguments | 09:50 |
| kanzure | part of the problem may be that they just simply aren't engineers | 09:51 |
| kanzure | (although this is a bit of a cop-out) | 09:52 |
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| kanzure | "Improving tag-clouds as visual information retrieval interfaces" http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.85.9998&rep=rep1&type=pdf | 09:59 |
| kanzure | "Keyword clouds: having very little effect on sensemaking in web search engines" (2012) | 10:02 |
| kanzure | see page 33 http://www.cs.swan.ac.uk/~csmathew/content/dissertation.pdf | 10:03 |
| maaku | kanzure: ok you put it that way -- "future of the biosphere" / "engineering martian life" -- I could see it getting funded | 10:04 |
| maaku | keeping in mind though that musk isn't personally reviewing these.. | 10:04 |
| maaku | "<fenn> i am a non-player character according to the intern" <-- coming from the intern? wow that's harsh! | 10:05 |
| kanzure | have you two met yet? you should meet | 10:05 |
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| maaku | we met once at the elements alpha release | 10:06 |
| kanzure | getting $20k from elon is totally worthless to me (i could just pay one of you guys that myself) | 10:06 |
| maaku | i don't get up to oakland often enough | 10:06 |
| maaku | speaking of which did that chemistry guy ever show up? | 10:06 |
| kanzure | no :-( | 10:06 |
| maaku | is it too presumptious if I send him the reddit link and point out 'hey, there might be money here...'? | 10:11 |
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| kanzure | s/might/is | 10:13 |
| kanzure | that's fine | 10:13 |
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| maaku | I'm also trying to figure out a low-maintenance automated quassel setup | 10:14 |
| maaku | I have a vps running quasselcore that anyone is allowed to use, just need to setup an automated, low friciton way of making accounts | 10:15 |
| maaku | for the irc newbs that show up without bouncers | 10:15 |
| btcdrak | and hope those n00bs dont get the IP banned on the IRC network... | 10:16 |
| kanzure | maaku: well i can give you an account on diyhpl.us with ssh and stuff, just run tmux and irssi | 10:17 |
| maaku | btcdrak: yeah the proper way to do this is using my vps' /64 ipv6 block, but that will probably require hacking up quassel... | 10:17 |
| kanzure | for diyhpl.us you can create new accounts by ssh newuser@diyhpl.us i think | 10:18 |
| kanzure | oh you have something already | 10:18 |
| kanzure | oh, for irc newbs. hm. | 10:18 |
| maaku | i do but that's a cooler setup ;) | 10:18 |
| kanzure | well, irccloud maybe | 10:18 |
| kanzure | "ssh newuser@" is probably not low friction for the types of people that don't have bouncers, heh | 10:19 |
| kanzure | although to be fair i don't have a bouncer either | 10:19 |
| maaku | kanzure: ? you're here 24/7. you don't do the same thing? | 10:20 |
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| kanzure | just tmux + irssi for me | 10:20 |
| kanzure | no bouncer | 10:20 |
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| justanotheruser | what is your uptime | 10:33 |
| fenn | 17 days ha | 10:35 |
| kanzure | had to abandon previous server because of qualcomm attack | 10:35 |
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| crescendo | http://www.humanconnectomeproject.org/ | 12:08 |
| crescendo | tmux + irssi for me too, btw :) | 12:08 |
| crescendo | (+password protected screen) | 12:08 |
| kanzure | i want fiber tractography of underdeveloped human brains | 12:10 |
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| kanzure | there is a talk at utexas.edu on monday called "Artificial Selection on Microbiomes to Improve Animal and Plant Health" (ulrich mueller) | 12:24 |
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| kanzure | "As Chief Venture Strategist in the Office of Security Operations at TSA from 2002 to 2013, Gobel proposed, designed, and operated the Department of Homeland Security's first venture capital arm. He was responsible for multiple investments in cutting-edge security capabilities, including the VOXER iPhone app [10] [4] and the world’s first hand-held mass spectrometer (aka 'Tricorder')[11]." | 14:05 |
| kanzure | this is the dude that runs the methuselah foundation? (david gobel) | 14:05 |
| Betawolf | the thing I learnt there is that the DHS has a venture capital arm | 14:06 |
| kanzure | and that it's operated by aubrey de grey | 14:07 |
| Betawolf | the app mentioned seems hard to google, unless it's the voice-chat app that advertises itself with no reference to security | 14:09 |
| fenn | usually it's SBIR | 14:09 |
| Betawolf | oh, it is that | 14:10 |
| Betawolf | 'Military-grade security and encryption' <- so, uh, backdoored? | 14:11 |
| kanzure | who wants military-grade encryption anyway? i want nsa-grade encryption. | 14:12 |
| kanzure | wait, no i don't | 14:14 |
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| kanzure | alcor conference october 9-11 http://www.alcor.org/AboutAlcor/conference.html | 16:50 |
| kanzure | in scottsdale? ugh | 16:50 |
| kanzure | "In 2009, he and his colleagues at 21CM published the first paper showing that a rabbit kidney can survive long-term after vitrification and transplantation and provide life support function, but with some ice damage. In 2013, he described how ice damage seen in the 2009 method can be eliminated without paying a toxicity penalty, and in 2015, he and colleague Brian Wowk discovered how to further reduce injury to mild levels." | 16:52 |
| kanzure | so there seems to be lots of existing survivability even without my techniques | 16:53 |
| kanzure | "At Critical Care Research he is presently engaged in the development of resuscitation technology by delivery of lipid-soluble drugs to the resuscitated brain, and also in experimental hypothermia induction for cerebral protection using post-resuscitation hypothermic perfluorocarbon lung lavage (dog model)" | 16:54 |
| kanzure | let's see what aschwin de wolf is up to... http://www.advancedneuralbio.com/pubs/Advanced%20Neural%20Biosciences.pdf | 16:56 |
| kanzure | ah they have been working with 3scan. i guess that's not surprising. | 16:58 |
| kanzure | didn't know they are in portland | 16:58 |
| kanzure | one of you portland nutjobs should go say hi to them | 16:58 |
| kanzure | http://www.advancedneuralbio.com/pubs/Human%20Cryopreservation%20Research%20at%20Advanced%20Neural%20Biosciences.pdf | 17:01 |
| maaku | kanzure: Reid Hoffmann wanted me or someone I know to give a talk on bitcoin at the alcor conference | 17:04 |
| maaku | I failed to find anyone able to go, but if you know anyone... (or if you want to go yourself) | 17:04 |
| kanzure | maaku: yeah i'll go if they have me give that talk | 17:05 |
| kanzure | sorta hurt you didn't think of me :-) | 17:05 |
| kanzure | i'll survive | 17:06 |
| maaku | kanzure: for sure? because if there is room this could totally happen | 17:06 |
| maaku | this was, uh, before I was in ##hplusroadmap. sorry i didn't remember until now | 17:06 |
| kanzure | yep let's do it | 17:06 |
| kanzure | oh didn't he give blockstream some money | 17:10 |
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| kanzure | maaku: lmk? i'd need to buy airfare soon. | 17:47 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure: where u going? | 17:52 |
| kanzure | alcor (maybe) | 17:55 |
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| delinquentme | bruh you’ve still got plenty of years | 18:00 |
| delinquentme | live for a bit longer we | 18:00 |
| delinquentme | you dont need to go into cryo next week | 18:00 |
| kanzure | actually it's next week | 18:02 |
| kanzure | http://www.alcor.org/AboutAlcor/conference.html | 18:02 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: metal band with insect frontman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64KMqZ8LI0E | 18:05 |
| kanzure | er, cricket | 18:05 |
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| delinquentme | ohhh alcor conf | 18:08 |
| delinquentme | got it | 18:08 |
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| kanzure | memory safety in c++14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEx5DNLWGgA | 18:25 |
| kanzure | "hardware-accelerated graphics on microkernels" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpbUMMguGEA | 18:39 |
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| maaku | kanzure: I'm messaging him now | 18:50 |
| maaku | btw Rudi Hoffman, not Reid Hoffman. whoops | 18:50 |
| maaku | the insurance agent that most alcor people use, not the multi-billionaire founder of linkedin :P | 18:51 |
| maaku | kanzure: I sent him an email with details and a text message to his cell. I imagine there might be a 24 hr turnaround on making a decision, as he probably doesn't make that call himself without consulting the rest of the comittee | 19:19 |
| maaku | i'll get back to you as soon as he does | 19:19 |
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| kanzure | okay well i have brownie points with max more that i can cash in i guess | 20:00 |
| kanzure | figured a reid hoffman endorsement wouldn't be bad though :-) | 20:00 |
| maaku | kanzure: sounds like a negative | 20:04 |
| maaku | unless you end-run hoffman (worth trying) | 20:04 |
| maaku | PM me your email | 20:05 |
| maaku | wait n/m I must have it from your posts to bitcoin-dev | 20:05 |
| kanzure | whoops just sent to max more | 20:06 |
| maaku | no that's probably fine | 20:06 |
| maaku | sent you hoffman's email | 20:07 |
| maaku | sounds like he just doesn't think he has sway with the conference organizer | 20:07 |
| maaku | max moore might | 20:07 |
| kanzure | oh brother the transhumanist president campaign person? why bother | 20:09 |
| kanzure | presidential campaign is just a boring shock thing | 20:18 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 21:46 |
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| JayDugger | Best, Ben - The Future of Money - (201408) http://alcor.org/cryonics/Cryonics2014-8.pdf | 22:36 |
| JayDugger | What Alcor has recently written about bitcoin. | 22:38 |
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| * maaku gets ready to cringe | 23:07 | |
| justanotheruser | maaku: seemed to be fine until "Bitcoins are identified by a string of about 30 letters and numbers (a bitcoin address)" | 23:10 |
| justanotheruser | and "Other notable bitcoin exchanges | 23:10 |
| justanotheruser | include Blockchain.info" | 23:10 |
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