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From: Tim Ruffing <crypto@timruffing•de>
To: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>, bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:31:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42e6c1d1d39d811e2fe7c4c5ce6e09c705bd3dbb.camel@timruffing.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org>

On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 17:40 -0500, Luke Dashjr wrote:
> The hard part is evaluating 
> if the new proposal meets the criteria - which definitely needs dev 
> skills (mainly for technical soundness).

I'm aware that checking technical soundness is in accordance with BIP2
[1], but I believe that this is one of the main problems of the current
process, and I can imagine that this is what eats the time of editors.

I'd prefer a BIP process in which the editors merely check that the
proposal is related to the Bitcoin ecosystem and meets some minimal
formal criteria that we already enforce now (i.e., is a full self-
contained document, has the required sections, etc...). This relieves
the editors not just from the effort, but also from the responsibility
to do so. Technical soundness should be evaluated by the audience of a
BIP, not by the editor. 

Best,
Tim


[1] BIP2 says: 
"For each new BIP that comes in an editor does the following: 

- Read the BIP to check if it is ready: sound and complete. The ideas
must make technical sense, even if they don't seem likely to be
accepted.
[...]"

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-29 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27 18:53 [bitcoindev] " 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-02-27 20:11 ` [bitcoindev] " 'Léo Haf' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-02-27 22:40   ` Luke Dashjr
2024-02-27 22:57     ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-02-27 23:26     ` Steve Lee
2024-02-28 11:12     ` bitcoin-dev-ml.void867 via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-02-28 16:31     ` Tim Ruffing [this message]
2024-03-07 20:56       ` Antoine Riard
2024-03-14 11:56       ` Chris Stewart
2024-03-27 21:25         ` Murch
2024-03-27 23:36           ` Keagan McClelland
2024-03-27 23:39           ` John C. Vernaleo
2024-03-28 13:02             ` Murch
2024-03-28 16:09               ` /dev /fd0
2024-03-28 20:04                 ` Matt Corallo
2024-03-28 20:31                   ` Antoine Riard
2024-03-28 20:59                   ` John C. Vernaleo
2024-03-28 21:19                     ` Matt Corallo
2024-03-29  2:34                     ` Michael Folkson
2024-03-29  5:24                   ` /dev /fd0
2024-03-29 21:08                     ` Antoine Riard
2024-03-30 11:51                       ` Michael Folkson
2024-03-30 20:01                         ` Antoine Riard
2024-03-31 16:01                           ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-01 20:14                             ` Antoine Riard
2024-04-07 10:11                             ` Ali Sherief
2024-04-01 21:13                   ` David A. Harding
2024-04-01 23:55                     ` /dev /fd0
2024-04-02  0:37                       ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-02 13:49                         ` /dev /fd0
2024-04-02 14:28                           ` Luke Dashjr
2024-04-02 15:13                             ` Gloria Zhao
2024-04-02 15:39                               ` Luke Dashjr
2024-04-03 15:03                                 ` Murch
2024-04-02  8:18                     ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-02 14:24                     ` nvk
2024-04-11 14:22                       ` Sergi Delgado Segura
2024-04-15 17:50                         ` Matt Corallo
2024-04-16 12:34                           ` Tim Ruffing
2024-04-16 13:32                             ` NVK
2024-04-16 17:08                         ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-17 23:58                           ` 'nsvrn' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-19 22:32                           ` Olaoluwa Osuntokun
2024-04-20 19:14                           ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-20 19:48                             ` NVK
2024-04-20 19:59                             ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-20 20:59                               ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-20 20:46                             ` Steve Lee
2024-04-20 21:08                               ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-20 21:11                                 ` Steve Lee
2024-04-20 21:37                                   ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-20 22:03                                     ` Steve Lee
2024-04-20 22:47                                       ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-22  2:44                                         ` Steve Lee
2024-04-20 22:21                                 ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-20 23:05                                   ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-21 11:43                                     ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-21 16:39                                       ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-21 17:57                                         ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-21 18:47                                           ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-21 19:18                                             ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-21 20:48                                             ` Antoine Riard
2024-04-21 23:01                             ` Matt Corallo
2024-04-22  0:06                               ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-22  4:28                             ` Ali Sherief
2024-04-23 22:15                             ` Anthony Towns
2024-04-25  6:42                               ` Antoine Riard
2024-03-29 22:17               ` Keagan McClelland
2024-03-30  4:04               ` Peter Todd
2024-04-01 18:42               ` Jonas Nick
2024-03-27 23:54           ` Matt Corallo
2024-03-28 15:50             ` Brandon Black
2024-03-28 19:42               ` Antoine Riard
2024-03-28 20:04               ` Matt Corallo
2024-04-02 13:17                 ` [bitcoindev] Time for an update to BIP2? Tim Ruffing
2024-04-03 19:44                   ` Pieter Wuille
2024-04-04  5:00                     ` Anthony Towns
2024-04-04  9:09                       ` Niklas Goegge
2024-04-04 12:58                         ` [bitcoindev] Adding New BIP Editors 0xB10C
2024-05-13 18:33                       ` [bitcoindev] Time for an update to BIP2? Murch
2024-04-01 18:41             ` [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors Murch
2024-03-31 17:01           ` 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-01  6:21             ` /dev /fd0
2024-04-01 11:58             ` Michael Folkson
2024-04-03 16:58             ` Juan Galt
2024-04-03 17:24               ` Vasil Dimov
2024-04-03 18:34                 ` 'Fabian' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-03-07 22:39     ` Keagan McClelland
2024-02-27 21:33 ` [bitcoindev] " 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-02-27 21:48   ` Greg Tonoski
2024-02-27 23:10 ` [bitcoindev] " /dev /fd0
2024-02-28  4:22 ` /dev /fd0
2024-03-09 10:46 ` Michael Folkson
2024-03-10 17:27   ` Bitcoin Error Log
2024-03-11 16:48   ` Jon A
2024-04-05 19:18 ` Larry Ruane

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