From: Keagan McClelland <keagan.mcclelland@gmail•com>
To: Murch <murch@murch•one>
Cc: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:36:48 -0700 [thread overview]
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I support this as a go forward plan.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 2:56 PM Murch <murch@murch•one> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I wanted to check in on the topic adding BIP Editors. There seem to be a
> number of candidates that are willing and able, and there seems to be
> broad agreement among the current editor, the readers of the repository,
> and the contributors to the repository that additional help is desirable.
>
> I have seen some support and reservations raised for pretty much every
> candidate. A few weeks have passed since this topic was last active. So
> far, there seems no clear path forward.
>
> If we are all just in a holding pattern, perhaps we could timebox this
> decision process: how about we invite arguments for and against any
> candidates in this thread until next Friday EOD (April 5th). If any
> candidates find broad support, those candidates could be added as new
> editors to the repository on the following Monday (April 8th). If none
> get broad support, at least we’d be able to move on and try something else.
>
> I propose that all editors share the same privileges, especially that
> any editor may assign numbers to BIPs. If there is guidance to be
> provided on the process of assigning numbers and number ranges for
> specific topics, it should be provided by then. If the editors decide on
> a single number authority among themselves, that would also be fine as
> long as it doesn’t become a bottleneck.
>
> As Tim and Chris have suggested, it seems reasonable to me that
> assessment of the technical soundness can be left to the audience. BIPs
> have been published in the repository and set to the "rejected" status
> before, so it’s not as if adding a BIP to the repository is treated as
> an unequivocal endorsement or implementation recommendation.
>
> Cheers,
> Murch
>
>
> On 3/14/24 07:56, Chris Stewart wrote:
> > I agree with Tim's thoughts here.
> >
> > I think Jon Atack, Reuben Somsen, Kanzure or Roasbeef would all make
> great
> > candidates.
> >
> > On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-6 Tim Ruffing wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 17:40 -0500, Luke Dashjr wrote:
> >>> The hard part is evaluating
> >>> if the new proposal meets the criteria - which definitely needs dev
> >>> skills (mainly for technical soundness).
> >>
> >> I'm aware that checking technical soundness is in accordance with BIP2
> >> [1], but I believe that this is one of the main problems of the current
> >> process, and I can imagine that this is what eats the time of editors.
> >>
> >> I'd prefer a BIP process in which the editors merely check that the
> >> proposal is related to the Bitcoin ecosystem and meets some minimal
> >> formal criteria that we already enforce now (i.e., is a full self-
> >> contained document, has the required sections, etc...). This relieves
> >> the editors not just from the effort, but also from the responsibility
> >> to do so. Technical soundness should be evaluated by the audience of a
> >> BIP, not by the editor.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] BIP2 says:
> >> "For each new BIP that comes in an editor does the following:
> >>
> >> - Read the BIP to check if it is ready: sound and complete. The ideas
> >> must make technical sense, even if they don't seem likely to be
> >> accepted.
> >> [...]"
>
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